Utopia... what a mess

[belfagor]

Definitely disappointed by the last chapter... it turned Raft from a survival game to a senseless mess. I got into the harpoon tower and i got a stupid thing after another:

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- The cogwheel puzzle.. quite annoying
- the SuperMario like jumping segment... if i liked a platform game I would be playing super mario not Raft :P
- then the Olaf "fight"... i just went through a full suit of armor and 3 machete just to die for consumption of equipment. I tried killing the hyenas just to have some time to pile up the boxes... but they never stop, so i tried to ignore them but they drag you down and you loose the box so you need to kill a pack of three just to place a couple of boxes and then rinse a repeat. i pulled the bow, but you cannot recover the arrows as they drag you
I am playing solo so now i have to start over with no equip, another smart move.
Really poor game design.

not to mention all the titanium based raft components and equipment... senseless grind going from island to island just to get 2/3 ores or grinding the rep to buy it at the trading post. all for this just for some convenience: after the engine to navigate against the wind, everything else is definitely not relevant for the progression and you just build it for the sake of it.

Too bad i loved this game but this is stupid, IMHO.

maybe I'll launch again in a while but for now.. fed up.

have fun

[Xas]

Is the Weighing scale puzzle really that hard.
Cups and a Jar of water, getting the right proportion puzzles aint something new.

The windmill platforms might be daunting for some,
could always use unorthodox method to reach the finish line, or
with the help of a hammer, some nails and wood.

Going into combat, one should always be ' well prepared '.
Haste and rush, often hurts.

As for the Hyena arena,
gathering up stacked boxes towards the center, standing ' Elevated ', slowly
shifting the boxes one step at a time towards the ledge for a stair steps, while the hyenas circles around, unable to reach you.


BLNT.

[Parrotfalkon]

If its that frustrating for you, you could use WeMod and enable few things that help you.

[unfug666]

OP is right, Utopia especially is quite the departure game-play wise. The engine is not made for precise controls and it shows in the jump and run bit. Thankfully, I was able to find a way to bug myself upstairs, otherwise I never would have finished that bit. Only to land myself in a truly annoying puzzle with lots of backtracking. That's when I returned to my raft and left. I really can't be bothered with that nonsense - especially since it's now clear how the story ends. Just seeing the end screen is not worth the hassle, so I'm just gonna bob on for now and check islands for flower seeds to prettify my raft. Should keep me busy for a while.

[draco2tiamat]

agreed, while I didn't hate the cog/jump puzzles, this was the wrong game for them. only reason I could do the jumps was in 3rd person mode. the idea of a create stack to kill the boss was more annoying then fun.

[Beans]

Completely agree. I finished the game, but it got more and more boring for me after getting the first engine. I never really crafted anything new after that because there is really no need for it, and Utopia, pure crap design. Wish I didn't play this game at all.

[Talung]

Cog puzzle is broken. Put Cog on lift, and raise lift and cog stays behind. Not bothering to find a workaround. Loved Raft until Final Chapter, and now wouldn't recommend it to anybody.

[distantlight]

For the cog puzzle, you have to put the cogs on the correct lift. If you put them on the wrong one, they just pass right through it. It's really dumb.

Anyway, I'm firmly in the "I loved the game but utopia sucked" camp. The whole "lose your equipment when you die" angle didn't seem TOO bad when there were no boss fights... so what do they go and do? Add boss fights! So stupid.

As soon as I saw the crate stacking stuff, I knew they ran out of ideas.

[unfug666]

Originally posted by draco2tiamat:

agreed, while I didn't hate the cog/jump puzzles, this was the wrong game for them. only reason I could do the jumps was in 3rd person mode. the idea of a create stack to kill the boss was more annoying then fun.

Yeah, absolutely. Utopia is all over the place - the respawn rates for the hyenas is just plain unreasonable, the puzzle with the boxes and the cables was okay, I always appreciate game design where something you learned earlier becomes useful again later. Solving Detto's raft was really well designed, you immediately knew what you had to do, no backtracking, That was actually fun. But the jump and run bit is really, really bad. Thankfully there is a way to bug yourself up where you need to go - not saying how, the devs might get the idea to fix this and I do *not* want that to happen lol.
My biggest gripe with the cog puzzle is that it forces you to traverse that room multiple times, and that is just plain un-fun with the finnicky controls. It's clear what you need to do, but...I found myself really not wanting to do it.
Maybe I'll return one day to finish it - but until then I'm gonna do the things that are actually fun: float across the ocean, pick up things I might need, and add to my raft.

[Nekochan]

I think the cogs were a little on point, just a fun little puzzle. The platformer part was definitely weird and felt out of place, sure there's always been a little jumping around but that area just felt kinda pointless and didn't seem to add anything other than time. As for the hyena cage area, that just takes patience and a little know how. I would stack far away crates towards the big one in the center then use it to transport them from one side to another, basically treating the floor as lava most of the time. The big thing for me which was super out of place was the Alpha, was a simple weapon sink and nothing else and very out of place for a non-boss game till now. Also I want in that stupid warehouse you unlock, there has to be loot in there.

[alexandrar_lucas]

Agree especially jumping puzzle.

[XIII]

The jumping puzzle is pretty bad. Controls and hitboxes of those windmills are way too bad for this kinda plattforming.

They Hyena pack is just stupid. You have hardly any time to do anything if you kill the damn dogs until the next wave spawns.

And I just died to the final boss after because the game thought it to be smart to throw an enemy at you that probably takes 60 arrows or so? Who even thought that was good idea.
The arena can also literally get so toxic that you have no choice but to take damage, because they didnt think that through either.

I didnt mind any other island, even the rhino shark fight, while a bit too long, wasnt bad. But Utopia really sucks.

Originally posted by Talung:

Cog puzzle is broken. Put Cog on lift, and raise lift and cog stays behind. Not bothering to find a workaround. Loved Raft until Final Chapter, and now wouldn't recommend it to anybody.

Had the same issue, but you have to put the cog on the other side lift. Its silly that theres no indicator for this.

[Son Of Mowgef]

For the most part I'm in agreement as well. The jumping section was pretty easy to finish, it was more 'in the way', than anything else. Then once I finished the part with the three hyenas I'd used so many resources I had to backtrack all the way to the raft and then all the way back again to restock. The Alpha fight was also weird. The blood from it was a much bigger problem than the Alpha itself. After that you release the captives and the game just stops, it doesn't end, there's no end screen, no credit scroll, it just stops.
Then you have all these cool new tools and nothing to do with them, considering the resources they need to make vs the benefit you get from them, it's really not worth it.
I think it would have been better if there were areas on the previous islands that needed the new tools to get into. At least then you'd have nice nostalgia trip backwards through the game to find new things.

[distantlight]

Yeah I didn't think the jumping section was too hard; it was just a pointless, uninspired irritant.

I was also disappointed they didn't do a little cutscene and credits scroll. Just makes the game feel more complete.

I was so sad when I made the titanium axe and it STILL deteriorates when used. I thought at the very least, the titanium tools would be permanent. Better to just use metal.

The devs kind of forgot the whole "craft stuff to get farther into the game" angle for this last part. It would've made perfect sense to use the titanium sword to beat the final boss. Or use the metal detector to find the hidden code, etc.

It's like they gave the final level to a different designer who'd never played RAFT before.

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

Originally posted by Talung:

Cog puzzle is broken. Put Cog on lift, and raise lift and cog stays behind. Not bothering to find a workaround. Loved Raft until Final Chapter, and now wouldn't recommend it to anybody.

thats because you aren't suppose to put the cogs on that lift. There is a way to get the cog onto the other lift without much trouble at all.

[Talung]

Originally posted by ❄️The Last Frontier 😊:

Originally posted by Talung:

Cog puzzle is broken. Put Cog on lift, and raise lift and cog stays behind. Not bothering to find a workaround. Loved Raft until Final Chapter, and now wouldn't recommend it to anybody.

thats because you aren't suppose to put the cogs on that lift. There is a way to get the cog onto the other lift without much trouble at all.

Then that is just dumb tbh. I am using the provided stuff and figuring out a logical solution... The fact that the puzzle has a completely different solution in mind that defies physics is yet another reason to really dislike how the game completely fell over on the third chapter.

Will I go back and even bother with other illogical solutions.. nope. Also hearing how the rest of after this... more reason not to bother imho.

This is like the Game of Thrones of games. Great Start, terrible ending.