Raft
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Raft is one of the WORST games I've ever played, here's why.
for a game set in the ocean it's incredibly shallow. every moment i am doing something involving working towards restoring my hunger and thirst (which drain unrealistically fast) all while counting in my head the exact minutes until the next shark attack, who for some reason are psychic and follow you the entire game. to make matters worse, you're constantly having to make new tools since they break and can't be repaired. rinse and repeat ad infinitum. you can never catch a break and just admire the view in this game, it's very min max and feels like work.

the game isn't too hard for me, it's just really annoying. and that's an important distinction in game design.

i can't believe this game is a global top seller. it's one of the worst games of its genre, if not one of the worst games i have ever played in 20+ years. even playing with my friends couldn't save the experience for me and we quickly went back to 7daystodie. there's countless games that do open world crafting survival better, just pick one at random really.

from a coding perspective there's a lot of things that could easily be tweaked to improve the game immensely. the developers declaring this the final product after years of early access is a major insult.

i wish i could refund this. i could even buy fast food with the money and still have a more enjoyable experience.
Last edited by Don Turtelli; Jul 2, 2022 @ 11:50am
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Xas Jul 2, 2022 @ 4:56am 
Ok.
You are entitled to your view.

You must have played ' alot ' of games, and ' Refunded ' them within two hours,
wrote alot of comments on so many games, from your Post Histories.
Even being called a troll, with your much crude review(s).

Must be hard finding games, that suit your style.
Possesses ' Seven ' games in total.
Last edited by Xas; Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:01am
Don Turtelli Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by Xas:
Ok.
You are entitled to your view.

You must have played ' alot ' of games, and ' Refunded ' them within two hours,
wrote alot of comments on so many games, from your Post Histories.
Even being called a troll, with your much crude review(s).

Must be hard finding games, that suit your style.
Possesses ' Seven ' games in total.
https://i.imgur.com/O3uZmCy.png i family share off an account with 500 games... so yes i am somewhat of an authority on the matter
galadon3 Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:03am 
Yepp a shark following you the whole game that doesn't make any sense, but magically spawning endless waves of zombies every 7 days? Perfectly logical, absolutely not just a very artificial game-mechanic.
galadon3 Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by Ghetto Lobster:
so yes i am somewhat of an authority on the matter

BAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Ok made my day buddy, you can now go back to shoot zombies that have a door magnet up their butt.
Zhorge Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:09am 
Originally posted by Ghetto Lobster:
Originally posted by Xas:
Ok.
You are entitled to your view.

You must have played ' alot ' of games, and ' Refunded ' them within two hours,
wrote alot of comments on so many games, from your Post Histories.
Even being called a troll, with your much crude review(s).

Must be hard finding games, that suit your style.
Possesses ' Seven ' games in total.
https://i.imgur.com/O3uZmCy.png i family share off an account with 500 games... so yes i am somewhat of an authority on the matter

Ouch. Yeah, people don't get that whole 'family sharing thing.'
Elijah Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:14am 
Well the food and drinking system makes sense for how short a day is compared to many other games. If you were to set the game speed to 24 hour per 6 real life hours you'd notice a difference for sure. That can be done with 3rd party means by the way.

The shark can also be disabled if you really want, also with 3rd party means. Then you can pretend that the shark is simply curious and that's why it follows you, or remove it completely. I myself disabled shark attacks on player because to me it makes no sense. However, everything else I left alone.

The start is a bit slow, but once you discover the receiver and explore beyond the standard islands, you'll notice that the game isn't so shallow, but you have to trigger the rest of the game. The first few hours will be slow, almost every single survival game is that way, Subnautica the same. At first I thought the game was shallow as well, even I wanted to refund it. But I gave it another go and I'm hooked. I've slowly built my raft the way I want it. Sadly I'm getting a bit annoyed over livestock despawning or disappearing but all I can do is to chug along and hope a fix comes soon, judging by other player reports.
Zhorge Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:19am 
Originally posted by Ghetto Lobster:
for a game set in the ocean it's incredibly shallow. every moment i am doing something involving working towards restoring my hunger and thirst (which drain unrealistically fast) all while counting in my head the exact minutes until the next shark attack, who for some reason are psychic and follow you the entire game. to make matters worse, you're constantly having to make new tools since they break and can't be repaired. rinse and repeat ad infinitum. you can never catch a break and just admire the view in this game, it's very min max and feels like work.

the game isn't too hard for me, it's just really annoying. and that's an important distinction in game design.

i can't believe this game is a global top seller. it's one of the worst games of its genre, if not one of the worst games i have ever played in over 20 years. even playing with my friends couldn't save the experience for me and we quickly went back to 7daystodie. there's countless games that do open world crafting survival better, just pick one at random really.

from a coding perspective there's a lot of things that could easily be tweaked to improve the game immensely. the developers declaring this the final product after years of early access is a major disappointment.

i wish i could refund this.

I don't disagree with what you say. The mechanics are pretty ♥♥♥♥. But it's not like 7DTD doesn't have ♥♥♥♥ mechanics, especially after all the nerfs because they didn't like people running off to 0.0 on Day 1 at the hardest (then) settings like I used to do and make their game look easy.

And yet both games are fairly fun to play.

Other can-be-tedious survival games include The Forest, Mist, Empyrion, Subsitence and whole bunch of others I've played. It's the nature of the beast.
the_Imperathor Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Ghetto Lobster:
i can't believe this game is a global top seller. it's one of the worst games of its genre, if not one of the worst games i have ever played in over 20 years. even playing with my friends couldn't save the experience for me and we quickly went back to 7daystodie. there's countless games that do open world crafting survival better, just pick one at random really.

from a coding perspective there's a lot of things that could easily be tweaked to improve the game immensely. the developers declaring this the final product after years of early access is a major disappointment.

i wish i could refund this.

Yeah sure, the game does have it's issues but it's a bloody INDIE game man. There are no hundreds of devs behind it. Besides with hotfixes still coming in I believe the authors over at Redbeet are not done with the game yet although they likely won't expand the main storyline anymore.

Regarding you issues with the game being rinse and repeat struggle to keep your thirst and hunger up... that's true for like the first few hours at most. After that (provided you are not an eternal noob) you start automating stuff and my dude that is some satisfaction when you continuously have less and less things to worry about. Now with the latest features including a windmill to recharge you batteries it's truly a top notch chill on the raft... once you earn it of course.
whoops Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:22am 
if you can manage to pull yourself together and play to the point where your needs are easily met, there's plenty of times to just sit around and enjoy the view, look at the occasional visitors that swim alongside the raft, or swim the reefs.

all you need to survive the 'grindy' start is a spear, fishing rod, grill/purifier and some brainpower.

but just by reading your comment its clear you made it like, what, 20 min in? got bored? felt like that was a intentional attack on you and your family honour by the devs?
Don Turtelli Jul 2, 2022 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by whoops:
but just by reading your comment its clear you made it like, what, 20 min in? got bored? felt like that was a intentional attack on you and your family honour by the devs?
you joke but wasting anyone's time is a personal attack. you are quite literally draining their limited time on this earth.
Last edited by Don Turtelli; Jul 2, 2022 @ 7:58am
Druology Jul 2, 2022 @ 6:14am 
Aww someone didn't get their chicken nuggie :steamhappy:
who? Jul 2, 2022 @ 6:18am 
You make your own choice to play a game, its not guaranteed that you will like it or that the game will be good enough for you. Same thing happens with tv shows/films, you don't know if you'll enjoy it until you actually do watch it, of course, you could always just read a review of someone else with similar tastes as yours, but it wont be the full experience. So no, it shouldn't be illegal
Don Turtelli Jul 2, 2022 @ 6:20am 
Originally posted by Druology:
Aww someone didn't get their chicken nuggie :steamhappy:
i'd rather have that than this game in my library yes
distantlight Jul 2, 2022 @ 6:26am 
The early game is tense and difficult, but in a way that I enjoyed. You have to balance gathering food so you don't starve, while expanding your raft and also carefully allocating your resources to creating tools to improve your situation. I think it's an interesting challenge.

You can also jump in the water and swim after the resources, which is faster than gathering them with a hook, but then you risk getting killed by the shark! It makes for great risk vs. reward gameplay.

Then after you get some crucial technology, the game REALLY gets good. Now you have the ability to actually steer and navigate, and the crappy wooden platform you started with starts to feel like a real ship! It's so awesome.

Don't feel bad about restarting the early game; it takes a while to figure out the optimal build order for the stuff you need to prioritize. I definitely found the game infuriating at first, but it just got better and better the more I played.
ArtemFC Jul 2, 2022 @ 6:43am 
According to your Profile you neither own Raft nor 7D2D...
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