WTF is up with the antenna setup?

[threedotonefour]

I come to the game completely blind and get told I need more altitude when I build the antenna. Guess I need to build higher. 6 floors up, still the same message. Maybe it should be built on land, on top of a mountain?

After playing for many hours and nothing working, I finally look it up online.

AND IT IS THE F***ING RECEIVER THAT HAS TO BE HIGHER UP?!?

How does this make any logical sense? This seems to have been complained about for years - why do the devs insist on making it so counter-intuitive. From an electrical standpoint the location of the receiver should not matter AT ALL. And even if the devs insist it should, why the hell doesn't the message tell you that THE RECEIVER SHOULD BE HIGHER, NOT THE ANTENNA in clear text?

This is really disappointing in an otherwise cool game and I have no idea why the devs still haven't changed how it works.

[Ryvaken Tadrya]

dyonisth původně napsal:

The 3 antennas emulates what i call "triangulation".

This system has been used in WW2, to locate a point by using 3 trucks with 1 antenna each.

These trucks made a "triangle" to locate a specific point, and there was a receptor to calculate the results of the 3 antennas.

The physical location of the computer performing the calculation and the screen displaying the result is irrelevant to the trigonometry used in triangulation.

Conversely, Raft makes no effort to determine if the antennae are colinear, which WOULD impact the system.

[NobodyNeuOnyx]

derpykat5 původně napsal:

"But we're playing a videogame. Realism isn't really important here."

It's not about realism. It's about adding unnecessary complication. If you want to talk realistic, dealing with this piece of electronics is EASIER in real life than it is here, because real life doesn't have a completely unnecessary location rule for receivers.


"Welcome to the steam forums, where direct insults towards developers and their games over misunderstandings and inconveniences is considered "criticism". [/quote]
The OP at least had no insults. Responding the way others have to OP is childish and unnecessary when all he did was point out a legit logical failing.

[Derpykat5]

Neuronyx původně napsal:

derpykat5 původně napsal:

"But we're playing a videogame. Realism isn't really important here."

It's not about realism. It's about adding unnecessary complication. If you want to talk realistic, dealing with this piece of electronics is EASIER in real life than it is here, because real life doesn't have a completely unnecessary location rule for receivers.


"Welcome to the steam forums, where direct insults towards developers and their games over misunderstandings and inconveniences is considered "criticism".

The OP at least had no insults. Responding the way others have to OP is childish and unnecessary when all he did was point out a legit logical failing. [/quote]
The OP has some heavily implied slights towards the devs.

Whether it's easier IRL or not doesn't matter - this is a video game. You have to think about it a little differently.

[>< V ><]

Neuronyx původně napsal:

Responding the way others have to OP is childish and unnecessary when all he did was point out a legit logical failing.

Non-standard behavior is not a "logical failing."

Given that the wires connecting the antennae are always straight and that Maya programmed the receiver to store the value of resistance per length of the wiring she is using, allows the receiver to apply a voltage to the wire, measure the current and then determine the length of wire connecting each antenna with math. In turn, determining the distance to each antenna from the receiver.

Given that the wires connecting the antennae are always straight allows the receiver to use the angle separation between the wires, the wire lengths and math to determine the distance of each antenna from the other.

Each antenna and receiver has a pressure sensor to determine altitude.

Rouhi then programmed the receiver to only allow full functionality under the conditions given in Raft.

What part is not logical?

The receiver/antenna system in Raft may be non-standard, but it can easily be created in the real world.

EDIT: Removed my last sentence. Too negative of an ending.

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

Also if you go to RAFT MODS there is a mod that will let you go WIFI meaning you can hide the wires if you don't like them as their rather annoying being stretched out all over the raft!

[NobodyNeuOnyx]

derpykat5 původně napsal:

Neuronyx původně napsal:

Whether it's easier IRL or not doesn't matter - this is a video game. You have to think about it a little differently.

I mean, when you put it like that I guess it does make sense if they wanted to add challenge, but it's also not very challenging, or more engaging, but that's just me.

[NobodyNeuOnyx]

>< V >< původně napsal:

Neuronyx původně napsal:

The part where the receiver has really high as if it works like an antenna, I said before this was not complicated and it certainly didn't need that much thought.

[NobodyNeuOnyx]

I swear to god I'm not a COMPLETE moron, Steam's interface just makes me look like it.

[Thetowerkiller69]

my research bench is completely broken
i cant research the antenna or reciever to even get to that point and i dont know why, making a new raft didnt work

[Ryvaken Tadrya]

ty.billman2 původně napsal:

my research bench is completely broken
i cant research the antenna or reciever to even get to that point and i dont know why, making a new raft didnt work

You need to get the blueprints before you can research advanced tech. Most blueprints are on story islands, but these two are randomly found in barrels.