Two Warthogs on the same island / No Screecher on a large tropical island

[AveryCF]

Hey there, I recently looked up this oddity earlier today as I've had it happen twice now. I'm not sure if it's a glitch or not, but it doesn't limit my game play, I was just curious if anyone knew why, or how it happened.

What's occurring is quite simple, twice now, over the just shy of 200 hours I have in this game, I've encountered two large tropical islands that once held two warthogs on it in separate locations. Odd enough, both were the same island seed. (As in same island formation, visited two separate spawned in times.) At first, I thought perhaps the warthog re-spawned since I slept between killing one, the last time this happened to me, even if the wiki said it wouldn't re-spawn. (I've seen the wiki misinform before, although it's pretty minor, so I guessed it was just something no one updated yet. -However i'm thinking that's wrong, even though the wiki has nothing on this AT ALL, meaning whoever writes on there likely doesn't know the answer ether.)

This time, I never slept, but I did kill the Screecher and at least one warthog on the ground (thinking I killed all threats), then went back to my raft since night was falling. I didn't sleep, but I spent the night organizing/collecting resources around my raft in preparation to look for any rare skinned tamable animals in the day where it'd be easier to see than at night. By the time morning came, I went to the topmost part of the island where, yet again, I found ANOTHER warthog. Interestingly enough, this is where the surprise second warthog was, the LAST time I had this happen to me- but I've visited this island seed before, since, and didn't always see two warthogs. (Meaning in short: I've visited this same island formation multiple times, but only two times out of those did I ever see two warthogs instead of one lonely one.)

So my question is this:
1. Is finding a second warthog a spawn chance on a giant, tropical island? (And if so, what's the percentage for it?)
2. Does it only happen on this island? (As in, are two warthogs incapable of being spawned on any other island seed?)
3. Is it because a day passed, and another one spawns on chance? (So if a day passes, it's not always guaranteed to throw another one your way?)

I'm not complaining, more meat and leather, but it is a bit of a surprise when you thought you made the island safe on land then, whoops! Second surprise piggy. So I was wondering what causes it, be it chance, a glitch, because I, the player, did a certain something, etc.

Second of all, while i'm 100% OKAY with this happening, it also made me curious... Once, a long time ago, I came across a big island (Separate from the two warthog experiences) with absolutely no Screecher, and since it only ever happened to me once, I chocked it up to "A glitch resulting in the failure of a Screecher spawning in." and went on my marry way, enjoying no death from above.
-But yesterday, when playing with a friend, they encountered the same problem. I stepped away for a little bit to let my friend sail my giant raft about (They're new to the game) and they reported seeing absolutely no Screecher when parking us nearby a large, tropical island, even though I've been teaching them how to play the game and TOLD THEM every large tropical island at least has one no-respawn Screecher on it. Sure enough, I returned in enough time to see the island relatively unexplored by my companion and I gave it a good look around in case they missed anything but- they were right. There was absolutely no Screecher, which makes this the second time in my save file that I've come across an island with absolutely no Screecher on it where one usually spawns.

Once again, like the two warthog chance, is this a glitch? Or a spawn chance that one just doesn't show up? I want to know if anyone knows what and/or why this happens.

I don't have a reddit, but I did look at one earlier today that had a few people reporting the same experiences. I'm really sorry I have no screenshot evidence of the two piggies (Mostly because I killed and looted the first one long before I knew there was a second one on the island.) and I couldn't screenshot a Screecher simply NOT THERE, but I hope someone takes my word for it, and might have an answer past "I don't know" like everyone else seems to have. I don't know ether- that's why i'm asking as I couldn't find an answer ANYWHERE on the internet. x'D

Thanks for reading, hopefully we can figure out what causes this, ether it be intention and just chance, or a glitch. <3

[Buzzard]

Most creatures will respawn *IF* there's not a player in their respawn area. If you were to anchor offshore of your warthog island, you'd eventually find replacement hogs to farm. Similar deal with bears...
NOTE: Respawn area and wandering/patrol areas are not the same thing.

The rats are especially annoying about popping back up when you think you're in the clear.

[Kathykins]

I'd say I have 2 warthogs on approximately half the islands I visit. They are often wandering pretty close to eachother too. I've not seen any respawns, since killing the hogs is usually the last thing I do before heading off to next island.

Never had a missing Screecher, though.

[AveryCF]

Originally posted by Buzzard:

Most creatures will respawn *IF* there's not a player in their respawn area. If you were to anchor offshore of your warthog island, you'd eventually find replacement hogs to farm. Similar deal with bears...
NOTE: Respawn area and wandering/patrol areas are not the same thing.

The rats are especially annoying about popping back up when you think you're in the clear.

Originally posted by Kathykins:

I'd say I have 2 warthogs on approximately half the islands I visit. They are often wandering pretty close to eachother too. I've not seen any respawns, since killing the hogs is usually the last thing I do before heading off to next island.

Never had a missing Screecher, though.

To both of you, these are both great points EXCEPT only certain creatures respawn, and neither warthogs nor Screechers respawn. Where I dock makes no difference on if I get a second warthog or not, the island simply spawns in with two sometimes- or a Screecher missing. While I thank you for trying to help, sadly, I can confirm neither of these are reasoning's on WHY a second warthog spawns, or a Screecher is missing past my previous guess, it might be an undiscovered chance/spawn rate..?

Bears respawn after 3 minutes if you walked away from their spawn zone, and I think Lurkers are about the same, maybe less. From what I recognized, the shark is about after a minute, unless you don't loot the body, in which (almost) all creatures (if they can respawn) takes longer since their body will remain before despawning for awhile. Looting everything off a creature obviously despawns the corpse causing the respawn timer to appear/engage sooner than if you waited for the corpse to disappear. (Hot Tip: Leaving the shark and seagulls un-looted is the best way to avoid dealing with them for a few more minutes if you don't want what they drop to begin with.)

This knowledge however does not apply to creatures who spawn once with an island vs. respawning after a general amount of time, meaning the Screechers and warthogs do not apply to this. They simply appear in number, (Or lack of, I suppose) for some mysterious reason rather than the standard, one of each per island.

Still looking for further ideas or answers as to why two warthogs per island / a Screecher not spawning, happens.

[Midnighttigger]

Ive had an island with 3 warthogs and a screecher
Ive had no screacher and no warthog on 2 islands, and 2 warthogs on multiple islands
All I want is llamas

[mota]

Yesterday i found a big (tropical) island with NO Warthog or Screecher. Just 2 Cluckers.

It seems the island animals got randomized in one of the last updates.

[AveryCF]

Originally posted by Midnighttigger:

Ive had an island with 3 warthogs and a screecher
Ive had no screacher and no warthog on 2 islands, and 2 warthogs on multiple islands
All I want is llamas

Originally posted by mota:

Yesterday i found a big (tropical) island with NO Warthog or Screecher. Just 2 Cluckers.

It seems the island animals got randomized in one of the last updates.

Huh, I've never heard of having no threats PERIOD. Maybe you're right and that it's random on which animals (Hostile or friendly) spawn? And/or that an update randomized it from the old norm?
I always thought one warthog and one screecher was standard but probably not guaranteed, along with tamable animal spawns. (I've seen islands with one tame-able animal, but usually there's at least two. Sometimes three, but the types are random and so are the skins with some rarer than others.)
Since it happens so often to so many people, i'm gonna hope it's not a glitch and go with the idea that animals are randomized (Ether always or due to a patch where it wasn't announced). Thanks, you guys. <3

[MissHap]

From my experience only enemies on story islands (Vasagatan, Balboa etc) will respawn every few minutes while you are at that location (not including bosses like Mama Bear). Once you clear a regular large island of threats, you are safe to explore until you sail far enough away from the island for them to respawn.

I think the large islands animals are randomised. I haven't explored too many large islands yet since the 1.0 update but all the ones I have visited have had at least one warthog and one screecher. One of the islands I think had two warthogs. So it seems random but may be the number of enemies is linked to certain large islands. Maybe experiment by sailing far away from a cleared island and then return to see what has spawned back and if it's the same creatures or not

[MuscleBearGamer]

It's something having to do with the 1.0 update or a hotfix after because prior to that update I only ever got 1-2 warthogs, 1 screecher, and 2-3 animals depending on size of island.

However in the last week or so I have encountered different sets of animals on the islands:

1 screecher, no warthogs, and 3 animals
no screecher, no warthogs, 4 llamas (which I loved btw since I was hunting for llama's)
no screecher, 2 warthogs, 3 animals
1 screecher, 2 warthogs, 1 animal( might have had a chicken running around that I just didn't see)
and the standard 1 screecher, 1-2 warthogs, 2 animals.

[Midnighttigger]

If anyone wants to know what island type was with 3 warthogs, it was one where theres a huge mountain with a trader on top