Raft
Zachshock Jun 1, 2021 @ 9:14pm
This game is impossible
you are starving and dehydrated every 5 minutes and when you respawn you spawn with nothing and hunger, thirst and health spawn to half instead of full
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Electrological Jun 4, 2021 @ 2:32am 
Originally posted by Ryvaken Tadrya:

I recommend running on Peaceful mode and telling the game where it can shove its bad design. The shark adds nothing to the game other than an annoyance timer, the seagull is a half-broken mess, and the other creatures are about as interesting as punching through a wall of obsidian, but less rewarding to fight

They should rename Peaceful mode as Sane mode, delete Easy mode, and rename Normal as Nightmare RPG
Kathykins Jun 5, 2021 @ 2:03am 
I love peaceful! Not played anything else in my, I think, 7 story playthroughs (so far). Its not that I can't handle the wildlife, but I detest being interrupted all the time, by things that have death wishes. Of course, peaceful means I haven't died yet. It also means the Screecher and Shark will be more difficult to kill, because 1) Screecher is hard to hit /my aim is terrible) and it only retaliates once and 2) Shark just continue to swim, pretending you didn't just put 3 arrows in it. I very much enjoy the peace and quiet, though. Oh and also...Seagulls are no trouble. Get a couple bird nests early + a grill = basically free food.

I still deal with hunger and thirst, more in the beginning than anything else, both stats drop quite fast on Peaceful as well. So can't imagine the nightmare on other modes. Until you have the Cooking Pot, hunger will be a constant battle. After that, keeping your tummy full is very easy. I usually end up with a lot more meals than I can ever hope to use. I play solo, so there is a limit to how much I need.

I agree with Electrological, Peaceful should be called Sane mode :)
Geon Jun 6, 2021 @ 12:20pm 
because its very difficult alone, i think raft is made for multiplayer not for a singleplayer even at peaceful mode it takes long time alone. do we need maybe a singleplayer mode ?
Last edited by Geon; Jun 6, 2021 @ 12:31pm
KippenKaasBaas Jun 6, 2021 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by Gray Playz:
im a youtuber btw

And a spammer apparently
Indiana_June Jun 7, 2021 @ 9:29am 
I haven't had any problems playing it solo.... and I'm a super casual gamer. Maybe you're doing something wrong?
play with a friend and if that doesn't work go to peaceful
Electrological Jun 7, 2021 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by BlueJune:
I haven't had any problems playing it solo.... and I'm a super casual gamer. Maybe you're doing something wrong?

it's just such a grind doing it alone. i've also solod normal for a while. it is doable, but it requires too much effort with very little payoff. Building a raft is nice. Exploring islands is great. But, if you're constantly dealing with broken seagulls and sharks that have the AI of a Windows 95 screensaver, why bother?
umop-apisdn Jun 7, 2021 @ 8:09pm 
What's wrong with the seagulls? I find them to be a staple food source...

You do know you can one-shot them with a metal spear, yeah? Set up a potato-in-a-shoe in the middle of the raft, and wait. One jab, and it's winner winner chicken dinner.

They also simply love to attack scarecrows, if potatoes are too valuable to risk.
Last edited by umop-apisdn; Jun 7, 2021 @ 8:12pm
Electrological Jun 8, 2021 @ 12:13am 
Originally posted by umop-apisdn:
What's wrong with the seagulls?

seagulls are broken. they will often bug out and stop attacking scarecrows completely. If you attack a seagull in a nest at the wrong moment, seagulls will never roost in the same nest again and you have to replace it. they also fly through walls and roofs to get your plants and flowers.

btw, I like that you challenged my assertion about seagulls but said nothing about the Win95 shark.
umop-apisdn Jun 8, 2021 @ 12:33am 
What's there to say about sharks? They're the ocean's apex predator. They're big dumb eating machines, they don't have to be smart.

To be completely fair, real sharks don't have much intelligence, either.
Last edited by umop-apisdn; Jun 8, 2021 @ 12:34am
umop-apisdn Jun 8, 2021 @ 12:55am 
Okay, to be honest, the Orca (killer whale) is the actual apex predator in the ocean, but that's because they're essentially sharks with the intellect of dolphins. They also attack (and kill, and eat) sharks and whales. Those bad boys even figured out how to get out of the water so they can eat seals...

Getting back on topic: sharks are big dumb eating machines, just like in the "real" world. They're dangerous, and people still hurt themselves with sharks that are already dead. Their skin is essentially covered in razor blades, and they have more teeth than they have any right to.

Seagulls are annoying, and rightfully so; I have watched actual seagulls take food out of people's hands at the beach while they were eating it. My wife and I call them "rats with wings," because they're little monsters. Their behavior in-game has been on-point, in my experience; they've got just enough clever to be a tiny bit more than a nuisance.

To be fair, I haven't experienced the bugs you've described, but I also haven't played more than a few dozen hours... and I haven't made any nests, either. With them constantly attacking my crops (ie, presenting me with a tasty target), I haven't felt the need. Now, if there were eggs involved...
Last edited by umop-apisdn; Jun 8, 2021 @ 12:59am
Electrological Jun 8, 2021 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by umop-apisdn:

Getting back on topic: sharks are big dumb eating machines, just like in the "real" world.

Yeah. I don't know very much about this topic. But, I'm willing to believe that sharks are dumb in the real world. I'm pretty sure they swim in more than 1 pattern though and, if you were to try to hunt and kill one, it wouldn't be totally monotonous.

If you play on peaceful and you wanna kill a shark to put its head on your wall, that's ok. But, if you're playing on normal and you have to constantly deal with the same shark the same way, it gets pretty boring for me. The game mechanics for killing sharks, boar and bears are not well designed in my opinion. If you enjoy killing this most basic AI, and often watching the dead bodies glitch through the terrain, well... I'm not gonna tell you that you're wrong. But, I really think it's dumb for the devs to spend so little time designing the combat of the game when a player has to spend so much time on it.

The AI is just not acceptable, even by the standards of 15 years ago. And, are the devs working on fixing it? As far as we can tell, no. They're working on a new kind of enemy that literally looks like a bug (which I find hilarious since the game is already full of bugs) and designing more decorations for the raft.

That's why I say peaceful mode is better for me. You get to turn off a lot of broken parts of the game and just enjoy rafting. That's how it is for me, but I understand if you feel differently.
Last edited by Electrological; Jun 8, 2021 @ 1:15am
umop-apisdn Jun 8, 2021 @ 1:53am 
Originally posted by Electrological:
Yeah. I don't know very much about this topic. But, I'm willing to believe that sharks are dumb in the real world. I'm pretty sure they swim in more than 1 pattern though

Well, let's get some more information on this topic, then. A quick Googling gives us https://ultimate-animals.com/muscle-movement/

There's not really any "pattern" involved; they can only go forward and turn. They literally point their mouth at a thing, lunge at it, and bite. No backwards, no sideways... just forward and steering... and biting. Always with the biting. Amazingly effective, that biting.

They have hundreds of teeth, and that's no exaggeration; they lose them constantly, and new ones are always being sprouted and moving forward to replace the lost and broken ones. Combined with a digestive system that can handle pretty much anything short of hard bone, plastics, or actual metal objects (such as license plates and other shinies), it would not be inaccurate to describe them as literal swimming garbage disposals.

They do have an extremely developed olfactory system, allowing them to "smell" (more accurately, taste) blood in the water for mind-boggling distances, and many seem to be sensitive to electrical currents, as well... making them an interesting and especially tenacious foe. As for simply swimming around and around the raft forever: It is not at all uncommon for them to follow ships at sea for days or even weeks; anyone who has worked on board a ship will be able to tell you stories of sharks following the boat looking for scraps; waiting for garbage to be dumped.

As for their intellectual capacity... a shark has almost the brain-size/body-weight ratio of some of the dumber species of birds. Since nearly everything is potential food, and most things flee instead of fighting, there's not really any reason for them to be smarter than "that's a thing... can I eat it?" ... especially when the answer to that question is "probably."

"Waiting for tasty treats to fall off of lashed-together debris? Easy mode... I'll wait. Can I bite the thing keeping my food from me? Sure, let's give that a shot. Didn't get it this time? Okay, I'll go back to waiting for the food to fall off. Can I bite the thing between me and my food?"
It's not very clever AI, but... it really doesn't need to be.

It makes perfect sense that sharks swim like dump trucks, both in reality and in-game; they don't really have a need to be graceful or clever. That being said, I wouldn't get in the water with one outside of a video game; they're still incredibly potent predators, and much more agile in the water than a human.
umop-apisdn Jun 8, 2021 @ 2:06am 
As for boars and bears, I have no experience; I've been enjoying learning the mechanics of floating around aimlessly, collecting bits and bobs and making a bigger floaty thing out of them. I honestly can't speak to that portion of the game, because I haven't gotten there yet.

I am aware that I should build a radio and some antennas to progress, I just haven't yet. To be completely honest, I wasn't even aware there was a story when I bought the game; "base-building survival, but on the water" was enough for me to take the plunge.

Oh, I almost forgot; it didn't hurt that it was on sale for a massive discount :steamhappy:
Last edited by umop-apisdn; Jun 8, 2021 @ 2:20am
KippenKaasBaas Jun 8, 2021 @ 2:34am 
Originally posted by umop-apisdn:
Originally posted by Electrological:
Yeah. I don't know very much about this topic. But, I'm willing to believe that sharks are dumb in the real world. I'm pretty sure they swim in more than 1 pattern though

Well, let's get some more information on this topic, then. A quick Googling gives us https://ultimate-animals.com/muscle-movement/

There's not really any "pattern" involved; they can only go forward and turn. They literally point their mouth at a thing, lunge at it, and bite. No backwards, no sideways... just forward and steering... and biting. Always with the biting. Amazingly effective, that biting.

They have hundreds of teeth, and that's no exaggeration; they lose them constantly, and new ones are always being sprouted and moving forward to replace the lost and broken ones. Combined with a digestive system that can handle pretty much anything short of hard bone, plastics, or actual metal objects (such as license plates and other shinies), it would not be inaccurate to describe them as literal swimming garbage disposals.

They do have an extremely developed olfactory system, allowing them to "smell" (more accurately, taste) blood in the water for mind-boggling distances, and many seem to be sensitive to electrical currents, as well... making them an interesting and especially tenacious foe. As for simply swimming around and around the raft forever: It is not at all uncommon for them to follow ships at sea for days or even weeks; anyone who has worked on board a ship will be able to tell you stories of sharks following the boat looking for scraps; waiting for garbage to be dumped.

As for their intellectual capacity... a shark has almost the brain-size/body-weight ratio of some of the dumber species of birds. Since nearly everything is potential food, and most things flee instead of fighting, there's not really any reason for them to be smarter than "that's a thing... can I eat it?" ... especially when the answer to that question is "probably."

"Waiting for tasty treats to fall off of lashed-together debris? Easy mode... I'll wait. Can I bite the thing keeping my food from me? Sure, let's give that a shot. Didn't get it this time? Okay, I'll go back to waiting for the food to fall off. Can I bite the thing between me and my food?"
It's not very clever AI, but... it really doesn't need to be.

It makes perfect sense that sharks swim like dump trucks, both in reality and in-game; they don't really have a need to be graceful or clever. That being said, I wouldn't get in the water with one outside of a video game; they're still incredibly potent predators, and much more agile in the water than a human.

This was a very interesting read! Thank you. Learned new things.
However I think I once read that sharks attacking humans are quite rare and that it would be unlikely for a shark to consider a human as normal prey the way the shark in Raft seems to do.
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