Alarming CPU temperatures

[Cylentnyte]

Myself and the two others I play with are getting some seriously high CPU temperatures when launching the game now. We weren't having this issue when we played through Chapter 2 shortly after launch, and our machines haven't changed at all hardware-wise since then. Is there a known issue with this? If anyone's able, can you post your CPU model and the temperatures you're getting just sitting at the title screen? Trying to see if this is a more widespread problem than just the three of us. These are the numbers just from sitting at the title screen:

CPU #1: 4770k
Temps: 77C+

CPU #2: 2600x
Temps: 85C+

CPU #3: 5900x
Temps: 80C+

For reference, the 5900x user was playing Zombies in Cold War yesterday on all maxed settings and never saw temps above 72C at the absolute highest. Raft is seeing 80C *at minimum*

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SOLUTION (workaround? idk):

"After a bit more testing, I've found the minimum / maximum processor state values in Window's "Advanced Power Settings" will completely resolve the issue. With the High Performance plan selected, I just changed both of these values from 100% to 99%. That's it. Immediately dropped from 80C to 50C. I've tried VSync, FPS limiters, adjusting graphics settings, but this was the only thing that made the difference.

I'm not sure what the root cause of it is here. It could be some weird quirk about these new chips that cause them to absolutely scream when given full power for race-to-sleep conditions. Or it could be Raft just bombarding it with an unrestricted amount of data to process, far more than it really should be. Not sure. Regardless, problem solved, though I'd really wish the devs would at least see what might be causing it. This only occurs with Raft."

[lee_bobbins]

Originally posted by Jedite:

I was playing Raft with my kids and my CPU was at a 100C. I have a Lenovo Legion 7 with Ryzen 5900XH.

That is a toaster with upgrades... Lenova is a cheaper brand, notorious for cutting corners anywhere they think naive people won't notice, and intended to be paired with another underwhelming brand, AMD and the worst memory sticks in existence. If you want to play games then stick with Intel and NVidia.

When loads of people come in here saying they have an i7 Intel and NVidia and are having problems, then you might have a point. Believe it or not I have the utmost sympathy for being on a budget and struggling to stretch a buck. But please stop being shocked that your farking toaster won't run the game. Three years ago a decent system would have only added at most, $400 hundred dollars more to your total, compared to the junk you bought. it would still be working today and it would probably play any game you wanted without much or any issue until something dies and then you only have to replace that one part. Now tho, you're gonna have to search, and wait.

If your'e in the US, NewEgg is a great place, the big box stores tend to be (unless you are very careful) hideously awful.

And if you think I'm a shill for Intell and NVidia, it's because I've been playing games since 1989, the bigger and more complex the better, and if there's one thing I've learned it's that the people who bought AMD and Ryzen were ALWAYS whining about their farking toasters while the rest of us were for the most part, just fine.

[Super Bambaspis]

Eh, I can't help but feel your opinion on Ryzen is out-of-date. AMD sure earned your prejudice after the horrific FX era that just wouldn't end and the rocky Ryzen 1 series. But yeah, my Ryzen system has dealt with both my heavy, sustained workloads, and my gaming, just as well as my intel system has. Solid as a rock. Granted my Ryzen is in a HAF-X case, but it's still never hit 80 degrees even when running 100% for 1/2 of the day.

For a few years AMD Ryzen really has been trading blows with Intel, stability included.

Perhaps Raft does have a edge case issue with Ryzen CPU's, I dunno - I don't have the game to test it - but if it does, it's certainly an extreme edge case.

Originally posted by lee_bobbins:

(...) and if there's one thing I've learned it's that the people who bought AMD and Ryzen were ALWAYS whining about their farking toasters while the rest of us were for the most part, just fine

I really haven't had this experience that you've had in the forums, from people with technical issues with games. AMD GPU's for certain, totally - But I haven't seen this about Ryzen CPU's in the slightest (unless you're talking about Ryzen 1!).

[lee_bobbins]

as mentioned, I've been playing games since 1989. That is a lot of time in gaming forums, listening to people (and watching the devs listen to people). Just look at this thread. Every single person complaining about their game not running, has AMD and Ryzen.

It is exactly as if you don't want to acknowledge reality.

[Super Bambaspis]

Originally posted by lee_bobbins:

as mentioned, I've been playing games since 1989. That is a lot of time in gaming forums, listening to people (and watching the devs listen to people). Just look at this thread. Every single person complaining about their game not running, has AMD and Ryzen.

It is exactly as if you don't want to acknowledge reality.

I'm sure that your experience in forums since 1989 is valid and real, but things change and sometimes you have to re-evaluate. I'm not silly enough to suddenly not trust Ryzen because something, for some people, is causing high CPU usage in this one game. Are you?

[ChromeSpeed]

Originally posted by Cylentnyte:

Myself and the two others I play with are getting some seriously high CPU temperatures when launching the game now. We weren't having this issue when we played through Chapter 2 shortly after launch, and our machines haven't changed at all hardware-wise since then. Is there a known issue with this? If anyone's able, can you post your CPU model and the temperatures you're getting just sitting at the title screen? Trying to see if this is a more widespread problem than just the three of us. These are the numbers just from sitting at the title screen:

CPU #1: 4770k
Temps: 77C+

CPU #2: 2600x
Temps: 85C+

CPU #3: 5900x
Temps: 80C+

For reference, the 5900x user was playing Zombies in Cold War yesterday on all maxed settings and never saw temps above 72C at the absolute highest. Raft is seeing 80C *at minimum*

my temperature is 80 degrees playing raft (with liquid cooling) when in the rest of the games the maximum is 65 degrees in my desktop Ryzen 7 2700x, in demanding games such as battlefield 5 with everything at its maximum the temperature does not exceed the 65 degrees

[Afairyist]

Originally posted by lee_bobbins:

maybe i was a bit too harsh in my previous comment, idk. Raft is actually a very simple game, it's nothing at all compared to a *full set* of Sims3 which at the time needed a super computer to run smoothly. Raft shouldn't be causing any problems for a decent pc.

Otoh (on the other hand) I suspect that Raft is a "side gig" for the devs -- either that or there's only a tiny few of them working on this, and I'd much prefer they spend their precious time creating more stuff for the game rather than waste their time ensuring that toasters can get the game to work.

Lessons can be learned from TheSims, which was one of the most popular and best money maker of all time. For those who don't know, each iteration of the franchise made much more money than the last and normally they made a new version every 4 years.

kids complained so much during Sims3 about their toasters not being able to run the game, that EA bigwigs decided to dumb down the game and make Sims4 so small it was basically a facebook app that could be played on your phone. Trying to make the game accessible to kids, literally destroyed the franchise. All those projected sales? Down the toilet. Kids would only buy one or two expansion packs while the rest of us literally bought everything the day it was released. I estimated I spent about $2000 at the time (while the kids with toasters spent $40). Anyway, nobody with a decent pc bought sims4, we all were so disgusted with the lack of content that we left, and turned our wallets elsewhere.

Remember how i said they would make a new game every 4 years? Well It's been at least 7 or 8 years since Sims4 with not even a mention of a Sims5. Lesson for the devs to be learned here: do not let kids complaining about toasters waste your precious time and drive away your other customers.

It's not true that that's the reason for Sims 4 being bad. It's much more likely (as there is a lot of evidance) that the reason TS4 is so bad is that it was intended to be a mobile game. It also doesn't run smoother than TS3. I have a pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ laptop (probably what you'd call a toaster) but I have far less problem running TS3 with multiple expansion packs than I have attempting to run TS4. TS3 actually runs very well.

But the reason for TS4 sucking isn't "kids complaining about toasters". It's that it started as a multiplayer mobile game and is just a cash grab. I am also of the opinion that games should be accessible for as many people as possible. Not just people who can afford expensive gaming setups (and on top of that know what brands to pick and not pick).

On top of that what you said about the profits of TS4 isn't accurate. TS4 has been very successfull when it comes to profits. And sure a lot of longtime players left (including me) but many stayed and enough new players were brought in. What i do agree on is that it's more directed towards a younger audience. But I don't think that has anything to do with them "dumb(ing) down the game and make Sims4 so small it was basically a facebook app that could be played on your phone". Frankly I just think playability is an excuse.

And regarding issues playing Raft. Sure maybe you could say it was because of toasters if people were having issues with every heavy game, but since pretty much everyone are only having issues with Raft (which really shouldn't be that difficult of a game to run) I really don't think it's because of their computers.

[lee_bobbins]

Originally posted by Bilbo Laggins:

Originally posted by lee_bobbins:

as mentioned, I've been playing games since 1989. That is a lot of time in gaming forums, listening to people (and watching the devs listen to people). Just look at this thread. Every single person complaining about their game not running, has AMD and Ryzen.

It is exactly as if you don't want to acknowledge reality.

I'm sure that your experience in forums since 1989 is valid and real, but things change and sometimes you have to re-evaluate. I'm not silly enough to suddenly not trust Ryzen because something, for some people, is causing high CPU usage in this one game. Are you?

Today people are complaining about the game not working for them, and today they all mention that today they all today are today playing on a toaster. Today.

It is exactly as if you miss the point. The point, is that the pattern of AMD and ryzen being second best, has been proven daily for the last 30 years. That hasn't changed. I understand budgets and times are tough and being tempted by second best, but realistically considering how long it takes them to make an update, it would be 3 years for the next update if they took the time to optimize the game for lower end systems.

So I feel bad for all the folks who are having difficulty playing but the answer isn't to deprive the rest of us who did buy a genuine gaming rig. Stop falling for the hype. AMD and ryzen may claim to manufacture components suitable for gaming but... people and companies lie and exaggerate all the time. It is also normal, for companies to say "these specs will run the game". Surrrrrrre. it will "run" the game, it just won't run the game well.

[Lucasif]

That's you not having a proper cooling solution for your CPU. Get yourself a watercooling AIO or a nice air cooler, I suggest Noctua NH-D14 or NH-D15 for a cooler with watercooling performance.

[kir-kanos]

CPU Brand: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor
Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
Memory:
RAM: 65445 MB
Some of my pc specs above, sorry to hear soo many having problems with heat. Was wondering if you guys are running in exclusive fullscreen or not have heard that exclusive fullscreen has helped.
Never had any problems myself have cheaper aio water cooler for cpu and never have i gotten over 68c in raft and about 80c for any other games like grounded, rdr2, nms, valheim, the long dark, greenhell. And ark, rust, minecraft, STN game + dedicated server running and never get crazy hot temps, same for gpu never gets over 85c.
I have been using amd cpu's for years and never had any problems with heat or getting games to run because of running amd in my system.

[Pisaro]

Originally posted by lee_bobbins:

Originally posted by Bilbo Laggins:

I'm sure that your experience in forums since 1989 is valid and real, but things change and sometimes you have to re-evaluate. I'm not silly enough to suddenly not trust Ryzen because something, for some people, is causing high CPU usage in this one game. Are you?

Today people are complaining about the game not working for them, and today they all mention that today they all today are today playing on a toaster. Today.

It is exactly as if you miss the point. The point, is that the pattern of AMD and ryzen being second best, has been proven daily for the last 30 years. That hasn't changed. I understand budgets and times are tough and being tempted by second best, but realistically considering how long it takes them to make an update, it would be 3 years for the next update if they took the time to optimize the game for lower end systems.

So I feel bad for all the folks who are having difficulty playing but the answer isn't to deprive the rest of us who did buy a genuine gaming rig. Stop falling for the hype. AMD and ryzen may claim to manufacture components suitable for gaming but... people and companies lie and exaggerate all the time. It is also normal, for companies to say "these specs will run the game". Surrrrrrre. it will "run" the game, it just won't run the game well.

Really? I have a ryzen 5900X and Raft works perfect ;)

[Drogash]

OMG same problem i I just did your Fixs OMG sir i love you my game now runs at 60c

before it would stay at 90c and wouldn't go down even from the menu screen

[Kozzy]

Strange, been playing the last few hours and Afterburner says the highest my temp on cpu has gone is 58c. And my GPU 70c (2070 and 2600x). Glad you all found something that helps!

[Mandarin |Sky|]

I love how everyone is changing the maximum processor state without even knowing what it does.

The game is cpu intensive, inadequate cooling will equal higher cpu temps than a lot of other games. I see people saying "but I'm watercooled". Yeah, I hate to break it to you, but AIO's shouldn't be confused with actual watercooling as AIO's are generally = to air cooling.

Edit: I see people are still posting here. It is not the game, it is your setup.

[Dadinareasonablypricedcar]

Not sure if you can follow a post on the discussions but id love to keep updated regarding heating isssues.

[Cylentnyte]

The temperature issue doesn't seem as bad in the latest update. Haven't had to adjust my processor state values so far.