Is there a way to keep version 1.02?

[engsoz]

I just read the update news to 1.02 and it says they are planning to add more creatures and thats why they added the bow. I am pretty busy with the shark and the bird. I really dont want to fight even more creatures! Is there a way to keep the actual version of the game without updating it?

[Operation40]

well, you should give it a chance :) the devs have made good decisions so far. I suspect if they add more threats they will try to balance them

that said, +1 for listing old versions on the steam 'beta' tab.. some of the other early access titles I play do that and it's super useful.. also would be great to see experimental builds on there for testing

[engsoz]

Originally posted by Operation40:

well, you should give it a chance :) the devs have made good decisions so far. I suspect if they add more threats they will try to balance them

that said, +1 for listing old versions on the steam 'beta' tab.. some of the other early access titles I play do that and it's super useful.. also would be great to see experimental builds on there for testing

Oh i will give it a chance! No doubt about that. Its just i played many ea-survival games so far and most of them i loved at the beginning and hated at the end (if there even was an end).
As i heard that they would add a bow i was kind of shocked cause for me that would make no sense. So beeing able to go back to an older version is just a lifeline! :)

If you mean options (of the game) /beta tab/the first dropdown menue then i have no other option there than no beta.

[Operation40]

Originally posted by engsoz:

If you mean options (of the game) /beta tab/the first dropdown menue then i have no other option there than no beta.

yes currently nothing listed.
the suggestion is they add old versions there as they patch new ones. that's where it is typically done on steam

[Operation40]

there's good reasons to want to roll back in an early access game, it's not that uncommon.. also steam tends to update no matter what (auto update 'off' means it updates next time you launch the game instead of automatically in the background).. the 'beta' dropdown is a great way for devs to help their early access players out

-- unstable release.. oopsie by the devs.. hey we're in early access, it happens.. if a release was crashing a lot, players could rollback until another release is ready, if they wanted

-- saved games. occasionally devs need to change the structure of the save game files and/or some other changes that makes it incompatable. players can rollback and continue their old game for a while if they want

-- mods. only a few unofficial ones right now but later on, updates may break mods, roll back your game version until the mod is updated

[engsoz]

Originally posted by Dawg:

So you bought a game in active Developement and seek to stay with just the beginning content? Wow! neither the bird or the shark are that hard at all. If you struggle with those maybe stick with creative where neither are a danger. They are both simplistic to deal with once you get settled in.

Usually the answer to your question is no you can not. However if you turn off auto update for the game through Steam so that the game will no update until you start the game. Then you can start the game ONLY through the Install folder EXE and this way you bypass Steam and the update. Note if you forget and start through Steam it will begin the update. This works for any game on Steam

I play games for fun only. I dont need a big challenge to have fun! Creative mode is boring cause you cant collect and its not moving. I dont have a problem with the shark and the bird i just dont want to fight another animal! And i dont like if i have to be busy all the time and cant relax a bit during the game.

Thank you for the Information! I will do that till i am ready for some updates!

[engsoz]

Originally posted by Operation40:

Originally posted by engsoz:

If you mean options (of the game) /beta tab/the first dropdown menue then i have no other option there than no beta.

yes currently nothing listed.
the suggestion is they add old versions there as they patch new ones. that's where it is typically done on steam

Yes ive seen that aleady with other games! Thx for the Info!

[engsoz]

Originally posted by Operation40:

there's good reasons to want to roll back in an early access game, it's not that uncommon.. also steam tends to update no matter what (auto update 'off' means it updates next time you launch the game instead of automatically in the background).. the 'beta' dropdown is a great way for devs to help their early access players out

-- unstable release.. oopsie by the devs.. hey we're in early access, it happens.. if a release was crashing a lot, players could rollback until another release is ready, if they wanted

-- saved games. occasionally devs need to change the structure of the save game files and/or some other changes that makes it incompatable. players can rollback and continue their old game for a while if they want

-- mods. only a few unofficial ones right now but later on, updates may break mods, roll back your game version until the mod is updated

totally agreed!

[engsoz]

Originally posted by Pl3xus:

Boi if u complainin about that u dont deserve to play this game,
once u have a metal spear the shark is no longer a problem,and before if u have good sound settings u always stop him fast enough and u can just stop planting small things and just survive by fishing,fruits and eggs,which the brids who no longer attack get you

You have no right to tell me what I deserve or not. I am able to enjoy the game the way i like. I have the right to ask a question about the game finally i payed for the game like everybody else!

[MechWarden]

First off... yes, there is a somewhat technical way to just play one specific version of the game through Steam. It requires going through the Steam command prompt, having certain reference numbers, and likely saving the game in a different folder to safe keeping.

That said, it is kind of a futile effort to try to cling onto some earlier version of Raft in hopes of maintaining your current enjoyment of the game. Yes, the unknown is pretty scary, and I can understand not wanting the game to develop in an undesirable direction, but literally holding onto the past (version) isn't how to do it. If there is an issue with changes, you mention them in a place like this (preferably in a civil manner, but this is kind of the Internet) and compare notes with other players. If the general consensus is that a recent change is wrong, it can get modified or reverted by the Dev team so the most number of people can enjoy the developing game.

As for the Dev team doing the right thing, that's a different issue altogether. We just have to trust that they know what they are doing. However, two or three of them did go to school for this sort of thing and might know how best to approach things.

Even then, there has been more and more places to get insight on how to be a game developer. YouTube channels like Extra Credits has been making videos for years on how the gaming industry operates, how to run your own Dev team, news of note about the gaming industry, games of note that might not get noticed, and other misc interesting topics. Another free source on YouTube I've recently found and respect is Mark Brown's Game Maker's Toolkit, showcasing different aspects of what works and what doesn't work, and the likely reasons as to why, in short topic-focused videos. And they are not the only ones, like a small YouTuber named TheHappieCat where she talks about how to do things like programming a game AI, among other things.

If free sources aren't enough (either too simplistic or not in depth enough), there are quite a few places where there are online courses with a set monthly subscription fee and open access to a wide variety of video lectures, walkthroughs, and sometimes quizzes. I'd name some of those, but this is post is long enough, and places like that advertise enough as it is.

Yes most of this is partly aimed at the Dev team, just in case they are unsure of where to look if for whatever reason they were wondering about something. With how people are used to looking things up online, and the fact they took classes on this, I doubt they actually had an issue with finding stuff like that, but can't always tell. Sometimes the hardest part isn't so much the ability to get help, but actually looking for or asking for it due to pride or laziness.

[MechWarden]

Originally posted by crolaa:

Originally posted by Pl3xus:

Boi if u complainin about that u dont deserve to play this game,
once u have a metal spear the shark is no longer a problem,and before if u have good sound settings u always stop him fast enough and u can just stop planting small things and just survive by fishing,fruits and eggs,which the brids who no longer attack get you

your a cun.t, end of that

Hey now... No need to use words like that.

Neither side wins a discussion when attacks like that are made.

Retorts like that just don't work, and often it is best to ignore people that don't know how to be civil. There is a report opinion on posts for a reason. We have a good Moderator here and you can help him out by flagging problems.

[RyderDie]

I'll look into whenever it's possible to make it so you can roll back your version or not.

Please also keep a civil language on the forums or punishments will be handed out.

[MechWarden]

I'd still be reluctant to recommend holding onto or rolling back to any older version.

Much of the useful feedback the Dev team needs only comes from the latest version, and there will likely be compatibly issues in multiplayer if versions are different.

The Dev team could offer up a 'beta' version, where you opt into it via the Steam options, and can check out what is in the works before the end of the development cycle; and can easily opt out and revert back if it is too much of a problem. However, that takes a bit of work to setup on their end. Scrap Mechanic didn't even do that until almost a year into their Early Access (give or take a few months), mostly because there wasn't much or a reason to at the time.