Backup Saves are Nearly Pointless

[[MSZS] Neo_Bahamut_19]

Just discovered something wonderful, any items lost will remain lost, even when loading a backup save. What even is this? Literally the only game I've ever played where a backup save remembers what you lost on your most recent save. So if something goes wrong and I lose a bunch of rare/hard to get stuff, and I reload a backup save from even an hour before, THOSE ITEMS ARE STILL GONE. This makes no sense whatsoever, seriously. Dumbest game design decision I've seen in my life honestly.

Think I'll just download a tool and use that since I don't have the option to recover stuff by loading an older save and redoing my work. Congrats, devs.

[lpnlizard27]

Back up saves only load the world condition. (your raft and islands)

Player condition is separate, and auto saved upon death.

This way if you soft lock or lose a one time item you can go back and get it, but you'll still lose any items held on the player if you died.

Also what is the point of a survival game if you can just rewind time and try again.

[[MSZS] Neo_Bahamut_19]

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

Back up saves only load the world condition. (your raft and islands)

Player condition is separate, and auto saved upon death.

This way if you soft lock or lose a one time item you can go back and get it, but you'll still lose any items held on the player if you died.

Also what is the point of a survival game if you can just rewind time and try again.

aLsO wHaT iS tHe PoInT

The point is that forcing stupid mechanics like this on players will only result in save-game editors and shadow-copies being used by a huge section of the community, since the devs want to be so "hardcore" with such a casual game. It's like the devs think this is Dark Souls or something.

Not to mention this is an EARLY ACCESS game and thereby is known to have bugs and odd behaviors that can cause corruption, crashes, lost items, and more. We've already had a few items just go up and missing from our inventories, we've had chests disappear with all their contained loot, we've had ships get hitched to islands, the fact that you can't roll back everything is a huge letdown for a game that doesn't even have dedicated servers.

[[MSZS] Neo_Bahamut_19]

To add to the kicker, I had a few friends I was trying to get to come play, I've not made the recommendation to NOT buy the game due to this "feature" the devs have implemented. :)

Right now I'm in the process of undoing the stupid imposed on us by the devs.

[sk00by (Melodie)]

I dont know what you refer to when you say "if something goes wrong". But if you are refering to death, then I would suggest you play on a more forgiving difficulty where you dont lose stuff after a respawn.

[[MSZS] Neo_Bahamut_19]

Originally posted by sk00by (Melodie):

I dont know what you refer to when you say "if something goes wrong". But if you are refering to death, then I would suggest you play on a more forgiving difficulty where you dont lose stuff after a respawn.

I came to this game for a casual survival game, not one where the moment I die all my ♥♥♥♥ I had on me is completely unrecoverable even if it's only 100 meters away on an island. It's okay though, I'm just restoring an old file and making sure that backups actively run on the player save file to un-dumb the system they created. :)

For those who I was going to try to get to come play, no longer. I've recommended other games to them.

[Fairchild]

If youre worried you will die and lose your stuff:
1. Save game
2. Return to main menu, go to "Load World" and "Open World folder path"
3. Select BOTH world and player folders and either copy them somewhere or better yet archive them.
4. Return to game.

In case of death, do what it is said in number 2. Delete both world and player folder and put back copied/archived files in their place. Once loading the map youll be returned to same spot with same gear, items and progress you had when you made a backup.

[DuneFlint]

I mostly don't mind the full inventory loss, and can deal with it while I'm playing solo - but seriously, losing my only net, full metal gear inventory and 30 metal arrows just wasn't worth it when a stupid boar snuck up on me while I was fighting a bird. So yeah, totally figured out how to edit my save file to turn my world into easy mode, respawned with all my inventory, and changed my save file back to normal.