How do I play with my son?

[wayninja]

Do I really have to set up 2 steam accounts, and pay for the game twice, just to play this with my son sitting right next to me?

Why no direct multiplayer?

[Anonymous Helper]

Yes, you'll need 2 Steam accounts that both own the game. Raft only supports Online multiplayer that is player hosted. One player acts as host and their Steam friends can join the hosted game.

[Jimmy James]

It's annoying trying to play the same game with your kids. I caved and made a new steam account for my son for some other games and bundle keys that I didn't want but spending $40 for this is not appealing.

There are some advantages to having two accounts like parental controls and you can be selective about what gets shared through family share but when you want to both play the same game its frustrating to have to buy it twice for the same household.

It'd be nice if family share allowed for two accounts to play the same game. Heck i'd even pay a small monthly fee for that feature.

Steam Family Share Unlimited coming to you for $5/mo. You're welcome Steam; you can mail me my check.

[wayninja]

I guess the unapologetic answer is "Yes, you'll need to give us more money."

As reprehensible as the grey market is, I sorta see a valid reason why it exists.

[Anonymous Helper]

Originally posted by wayninja:

I guess the unapologetic answer is "Yes, you'll need to give us more money."

As reprehensible as the grey market is, I sorta see a valid reason why it exists.

Considering Raft is not sold outside of Steam, you are highly unlikely to find legitimate keys being sold anywhere. You're far more likely to be scammed into buying key for cheap knockoff.

[OSIAS]

Look I get where you coming from and with certain games types I completly agree. This however isn't one of them, its a single experience to each screen. Not a shared screen experience like a NBA JAM would be in which I don't think you would need to pay twice to play it.

[OSIAS]

I also agree a family network share sorta thing would be very kewl but likely could be abused as well.

[wayninja]

Originally posted by Anonymous Helper:

Originally posted by wayninja:

I guess the unapologetic answer is "Yes, you'll need to give us more money."

As reprehensible as the grey market is, I sorta see a valid reason why it exists.

Considering Raft is not sold outside of Steam, you are highly unlikely to find legitimate keys being sold anywhere. You're far more likely to be scammed into buying key for cheap knockoff.

What?

[wayninja]

Originally posted by OSIAS:

Look I get where you coming from and with certain games types I completly agree. This however isn't one of them, its a single experience to each screen. Not a shared screen experience like a NBA JAM would be in which I don't think you would need to pay twice to play it.

I get that, and if I had any desire to play this game outside of my son asking me to play with him, I would gladly pay for the second copy.

I guess it just feels like the entire concept of the steam's multiplayer through friends lists and their servers only was to close a monetary loophole for them. There's certainly nothing in it for us consumers.

[Anonymous Helper]

Originally posted by wayninja:

What?

Talking about this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/648800/discussions/0/1643166649104433378/?ctp=6#c2242174386384726924

If you try to buy Raft key from grey market, what you actually end up buying is a key for a cheap clone ported from mobile and pay double what the knockoff normally costs.

As Raft is not sold outside of Steam (so no keys can be bought), only possible game keys that might be in circulation are the ones gifted away by the game devs and that's less than 200 keys in past 2 years.

[wayninja]

Originally posted by Anonymous Helper:

Originally posted by wayninja:

What?

Talking about this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/648800/discussions/0/1643166649104433378/?ctp=6#c2242174386384726924

If you try to buy Raft key from grey market, you may end up paying double the price of cheap clone ported from mobile and pay double what it normally costs.

As Raft is not sold outside of Steam (so no keys can be bought), only possible game keys that might be in circulation are the ones gifted away by the game devs and that's less than 200 keys in past 2 years.

Yeah, I know what the market risks entail. It really has nothing to do with my statement though that the seedy grey market is bolstered in validity by developer practices that amount to you having to pay double for features that were commonplace until somewhat recently.

[OSIAS]

This developer is not being greedy, 20 dollars for this game per persons experience for what this game is and provides is very very reasonable.

Sure you can play with your son. The game is 40 Dollars with local co-op. 20 dollars for single player. Other titles that would actually apply to local coop from AAA studios cost 60. I think your getting a great deal.

Again I don't disagree with the concept or issues of developers being greedy or conducting money grabs. However the concept of that must apply and it does not in this instance.

Pony up 40 dollars to play with your son and quite being a stingy scrooge. The amount of enjoyment and time you will spend in it will end up being pennies on the hour invested.

Look at how many hours I have played to what I paid, priceless and dirt cheap.

Cheerio

[卢本伟傻逼]

poor guy

[wayninja]

Originally posted by OSIAS:

This developer is not being greedy, 20 dollars for this game per persons experience for what this game is and provides is very very reasonable.

Sure you can play with your son. The game is 40 Dollars with local co-op. 20 dollars for single player. Other titles that would actually apply to local coop from AAA studios cost 60. I think your getting a great deal.

Again I don't disagree with the concept or issues of developers being greedy or conducting money grabs. However the concept of that must apply and it does not in this instance.

Pony up 40 dollars to play with your son and quite being a stingy scrooge. The amount of enjoyment and time you will spend in it will end up being pennies on the hour invested.

Look at how many hours I have played to what I paid, priceless and dirt cheap.

Cheerio

I'm not being stingy. I have no interest in this game. As such, I'm unwilling to pay an EXTRA 20 dollars for the 'privilege' of playing multiplayer with my son. Something video games have successfully accomplished, without buying multiple copies, for literally decades.

For the record, that's what bugs me. I can play this game on 2 machines simultaneously already. So the argument that I need to pay "per person's experience" is bunk. The only thing I can't do is connect to the other game instance.

But thanks.

Cheerio.