My biggest disappointment with this game: We can't cut MOST of the trees.

[Krysta]

The most valuable resource on the seas seems to be lumber. I get not being able to chop the super thick trees on the tropical islands, but the new temperate island was maddening. Tons of moderately sized trees that we couldn't touch.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1931391714

[GriZZle]

Palm trees. Make large crop plots and grow them. Play the game under the impression that you'll never have enough. Think realistically there is no way your little stone or metal axe could chop down that tree. Collection nets and large crop plots are your best friends

[Krysta]

No way my metal axe could cut down a birch tree as thick as my thigh? If that's the case then there's no way it could cut down the palm trees as thick as my waist. And how am I getting 2x4 planks from three inch thick mango trees?

Realistically, these sorts of trees were cut and worked with much worse tools than we currently have access to. A napped stone axe can cut most any tree, given enough time. One made from sharpened scrap steel is much better than that. There's nothing realistic about it, and that's fine.

The annoyance and disappointment is that I did prepare. I have a 13x13 raft so far, fully netted on both axis. I have six large plots. I ran out of seeds, because they don't guarantee self replace. You want to use them, you have to hit islands for seeds. Randomly came upon a giant island covered in trees, thought I'd be able to replenish my plank and seed supplies. This island should have covered my lumber supplies for ages. Instead, I left with a couple handfuls of honey.

[Rio]

Maybe it's in the works for future chapters. A "chainsaw" or something. Who knows?
It's still in early access, so just be patient. They may very well be planning something like that in the future. Just roll with it for now.

[Grezko]

Originally posted by PurpleMentat:

The most valuable resource on the seas seems to be lumber. I get not being able to chop the super thick trees on the tropical islands, but the new temperate island was maddening. Tons of moderately sized trees that we couldn't touch.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1931391714

The smaller one CAN be cut.

[Krysta]

Originally posted by Grezko:

Originally posted by PurpleMentat:

The most valuable resource on the seas seems to be lumber. I get not being able to chop the super thick trees on the tropical islands, but the new temperate island was maddening. Tons of moderately sized trees that we couldn't touch.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1931391714

The smaller one CAN be cut.

Really? 'cause I was just there, and ran up to every tree on that island, and none of them could be cut down.

Originally posted by Rio:

Maybe it's in the works for future chapters. A "chainsaw" or something. Who knows?
It's still in early access, so just be patient. They may very well be planning something like that in the future. Just roll with it for now.

I know it's early access. It's been in early access for a year and a half. The entire point of early access is for players to provide feedback, as a large scale testing force. I'm providing my feedback: it's majorly disappointing to roll up on a giant island covered in soft wood deciduous trees and not be able to cut through them with an axe the way mankind has been doing for 10,000 years. Doubly so when we had to fight off three bears to get around and determine that not a single one of these trees can be chopped down.

[[txc] cola]

I can say that I managed to cut a pine tree down and got 3 pine cones. Once you cut one down, if you can find one, then you'll be set to plant them on your raft.

[Grezko]

Originally posted by PurpleMentat:

Originally posted by Grezko:

The smaller one CAN be cut.

Really? 'cause I was just there, and ran up to every tree on that island, and none of them could be cut down.

I am 100% sure. The cuttable ones are smaller and the birch trees that can be cut have green leafs instead of brown-orange

[Krysta]

Originally posted by Cola:

I can say that I managed to cut a pine tree down and got 3 pine cones. Once you cut one down, if you can find one, then you'll be set to plant them on your raft.

Originally posted by Grezko:

I am 100% sure. The cuttable ones are smaller and the birch trees that can be cut have green leafs instead of brown-orange

In this case, I seem to have encountered what I assume to be a bug. An entire temperate island without a single tree that could be felled. That shouldn't happen.

[Grezko]

Originally posted by PurpleMentat:

Originally posted by Cola:

I can say that I managed to cut a pine tree down and got 3 pine cones. Once you cut one down, if you can find one, then you'll be set to plant them on your raft.

Originally posted by Grezko:

I am 100% sure. The cuttable ones are smaller and the birch trees that can be cut have green leafs instead of brown-orange

In this case, I seem to have encountered what I assume to be a bug. An entire temperate island without a single tree that could be felled. That shouldn't happen.

Was there honey on that islands ?

[Krysta]

Yes. Total of four.

[주금이]

The game maker want to saving environment

[Grezko]

Originally posted by PurpleMentat:

Yes. Total of four.

Might be a "small" island of the new "biome"(will use minecraft terminology). Even then though i expect it to have a some trees that can be cut down.

Here is the one i found so far and it looks much bigger, also there were more than one honey area(logs with flowers around them) with at 2 bear spawn locations. Did the island you found have bears ?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1930394179

[Tyrian]

Originally posted by PurpleMentat:

The most valuable resource on the seas seems to be lumber. I get not being able to chop the super thick trees on the tropical islands, but the new temperate island was maddening. Tons of moderately sized trees that we couldn't touch.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1931391714

+1

[Eventide]

The game permits you to build far in excess of supply. But that doesn't mean this is a "game problem." Take a look at what you are doing: if you want to have a mega yacht with 10 or more animals, its going to cost a lot of wood to get there and maintain it.

I'd like to bucket all the milk my one goat can make, because real fish stew is nice. It's much easier to collect eggs because they don't need a container like the milk, so I have a ton more eggs. Raft repairs due to shark. Arrows. All tools wearing out with use.

The more you try to do, the more wood you need to maintain it - but some of these things are choices, like fish stew, or over-building a raft.

Sometimes I'll give a large island a pass and just drift for a long while, building a stockpile. Because a large island visit can cost a lot of wood for supplies. Time spent scouring it from one end to the other costs food and water; we have a choice to collect the food we find to make something better on the raft - or eat what we find, as we find it.

So, I don't see a "wood shortage" in the game. I see challenges, choices and trade-offs ;).

[Krysta]

Originally posted by Grezko:

Originally posted by PurpleMentat:

Yes. Total of four.

Might be a "small" island of the new "biome"(will use minecraft terminology). Even then though i expect it to have a some trees that can be cut down.

Here is the one i found so far and it looks much bigger, also there were more than one honey area(logs with flowers around them) with at 2 bear spawn locations. Did the island you found have bears ?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1930394179

Yeah, we killed three in the process of exploring the island and finding the two honey stumps with two honey each.

Originally posted by basic.syntax:

The game permits you to build far in excess of supply. But that doesn't mean this is a "game problem." Take a look at what you are doing: if you want to have a mega yacht with 10 or more animals, its going to cost a lot of wood to get there and maintain it.

I'd like to bucket all the milk my one goat can make, because real fish stew is nice. It's much easier to collect eggs because they don't need a container like the milk, so I have a ton more eggs. Raft repairs due to shark. Arrows. All tools wearing out with use.

The more you try to do, the more wood you need to maintain it - but some of these things are choices, like fish stew, or over-building a raft.

Sometimes I'll give a large island a pass and just drift for a long while, building a stockpile. Because a large island visit can cost a lot of wood for supplies. Time spent scouring it from one end to the other costs food and water; we have a choice to collect the food we find to make something better on the raft - or eat what we find, as we find it.

So, I don't see a "wood shortage" in the game. I see challenges, choices and trade-offs ;).

None of this I have a problem with. My issue is that stopping at a large island covered in relatively thin soft wood trees should be a great way to GAIN lumber, not a lumber sink. I'm on board with the game being unrealistic, that's going to happen with a game, you can't simulate real life accurately and if you could it wouldn't be at all fun. This, though, is so counter-intuitive as to be frustrating.

We're not building a mega-yacht. We're not maintaining huge lumber sinks. We spent most of it at a story location with very little wood, and not long after leaving we spotted this place randomly. Seeing all those trees seemed like it should have solved our very low plank supply and gotten us a bunch of seeds to get our large crop plots going again. Instead, we left practically empty handed. It ended up being a frustrating bad end to an otherwise positive play session.