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Tavistock Dec 7, 2019 @ 2:46pm
Why the Profanity in the update ???
Hi, Just played the new update - must say the visuals and islands are very good.

Really like how the game is going

... However ... What's with the graffiti on the radio towers in the new update ???

Why ????

My kid loves this game - but now I'm gonna have to ban him from it :( - at least put a mature filter option on if you must have it (not that i think it adds to the narrative at all):steamsad:
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Vi-El Dec 11, 2019 @ 7:41pm 
Originally posted by agb_pojk:
Hi, Just played the new update - must say the visuals and islands are very good.

Really like how the game is going

... However ... What's with the graffiti on the radio towers in the new update ???

Why ????

My kid loves this game - but now I'm gonna have to ban him from it :( - at least put a mature filter option on if you must have it (not that i think it adds to the narrative at all):steamsad:

1. Not a kids game
- It literally deals with an extinction level event in which almost all of humanity died
- You fight a shark to death
- You fight other horrific monsters which are mutated birds, rats and bears
2. Profanity? What Profanity?
- Your kid is either so extremely sheltered that it considers the word "po**" worse than "sh**" or you are making a mountain out of a molehill
- Your kid will learn a lot more profanity in school, let alone on youtube or other games that are for children. This game is NOTHING when it comes to profanity
3. It is your right as a parent to decide what your kid plays
- So good on you for actually doing the job a parent has to do
- However it isnt to you to tell the devs off when it comes to what they want to to do with their "not marketed to children" game
- If this were a lego game which is entirely focused on children, then I would understand the outrage at little Timmy being able to see the "Fu**" word in it
- Though I would recommend against the "Ban" from the game as thus far the station is literally the only place the kid will ever deal with any "profanity" in the first place. But seeing as the kid is already not allowed to see some bad words they likely already know by this point, they probably shouldnt play any further seeing the monsters in this game as those will most likely cause them nightmares which is by far more damaging than "lil timmy" saying the fu** word
Rio Dec 11, 2019 @ 9:56pm 
I'm not saying it's not good parenting to limit exposure to foul language. I have an autistic child as well, and a neuro-typical child as well.
I try to limit foul language around them because I'd like them to learn the more polite and proper ways to communicate before throwing profanity and all it's mess into the mix. But I do plan to educate them into why such words are considered "foul" and why it's not advisable to resort to them, especially in excess.
My main talking point was that this isn't strictly speaking a kids game and that eventually, all children get exposed to profanity, so may as well try to "get in the first punch" and educate.
That's all.
I'm not condoning foul language, but I'm acknowledging there's really no escaping it in the world.

And yes, Bruce is the great white from Finding Nemo, who in turn is a reference to the JAWS shark, which was called "Bruce" by the production team as a dig at Steven Speilberg's lawyer.
Raft is giving a collective nod to this shark history. ;)
AbbyCat Dec 11, 2019 @ 11:38pm 
@abg_pojk Sorry if I offended you, that was not at all my intention. I am on the spectrum myself, hence why I now study communication, and I will be the first to admit I have a lot of room to grow. I grew up in a very religious and stifling environment, which further exacerbated my poor social skills. It really sucks, but kids are stigmatized in most public schools when they don't use the same lingo as their peers, which is often lots of profanity. However, I honestly believe profanity has its proper place, and can be used in a healthy manner. I am no stranger to the kinds of hateful language used towards folks like me, and this is why I feel its so important to teach children how to use this sort of language appropriately, and I thought a game could be a good place for that conversation. I honestly meant no judgment on your part, I don't know you, or your child, and will be more careful about approaching these sorts of "parenting" topics in the future.

I guess the point I was really trying to get at is, this game is great, I personally don't find that the use of the term "bastard" retracts from the narrative, as Raft is set in a desperate apocalyptic world. I don't think the developers deserve to lose monetary support over this issue. A profanity filter is really the best option to make everyone happy here, its a quick edit to change that texture file to some other word like "jerk". " I got you Bruce you jerk" sounds just as good to me.

If you and your child enjoy this game I'd love to help make this game suitable for the both of you. So here is "a little empathy" from me to you. I will actually support you on this and email the developers as well. I never meant any of my words to be stones <3.
Last edited by AbbyCat; Dec 12, 2019 @ 12:01am
Jodyxe Dec 11, 2019 @ 11:56pm 
Omg, thats much better than fox news and alex jones combined!
Last edited by Jodyxe; Dec 11, 2019 @ 11:57pm
AbbyCat Dec 12, 2019 @ 12:21am 
@abg_pojk Here is the email I sent the developers. I feel for you and your child. Again, I'm sorry if I caused you any distress. If anyone else is willing to help out feel free to use my email as a template.

Hello from the US! Firstly, I would like to say I LOVE this game, and am really enjoying the new content in the recent update! I've bought the game twice for myself and my girlfriend. However, it has come to my attention that some of my friends here in the US are disturbed by the usage of profanity in the new update. Some of them like to play this game with their young children and find the language used in the narrative too graphic. While I personally don't have an issue with this, some of my friends are deeply upset and willing to stop backing your project altogether! 
Would it be possible to include a profanity filter to censor some of the harsher language in the game? Or perhaps edit the "I got you Bruce you Bastard" texture to read " I got you Bruce you Jerk" instead?
Thank you for your time and effort. We all appreciate it!
Shamanu Dec 12, 2019 @ 10:20am 
Well, the only non-profanity language will be "...Bruce you bad fish!"
Anything else I can describe as a profanity. Jerk? Jerking a snake - obviously a profanity. Ban the word! Jackass - profanity. There's "ass" word in it.

Guys, don't be stupid! The text is pretty innocent!
AbbyCat Dec 12, 2019 @ 12:44pm 
One of my favorite things to do growing up was hanging out with my dad, and watching him play PC games. Imagining the fact that this is ruining someones good family time kind of sucks.

On a surface level, Raft is pretty damn appealing to kids. Having the option to swap those textures out doesn't sound like it would be too much work either.

I agree in this case its pretty innocent, but there are folks out there who find the word bastard specifically offensive. If not the devs, perhaps someone could create a mod that swaps those textures.
Hypersapien Dec 15, 2019 @ 6:44pm 
I'm in a weekly D&D group. Most of us are adults but there is also an 11 year old (her parents are in the group as well). Her parents have specifically said that we shouldn't feel like we need to censor ourselves in front of her, and we don't (at least as far as swearing is concerned. Sexual topics are still right out). As I understand it they have had a talk with her, explaining how that kind of language is fine for adults, but she shouldn't use it herself.

For the record, she's a great kid and wicked smart.

I believe honesty and open communication with kids is best and not trying to protect them from knowledge of the world.
Last edited by Hypersapien; Dec 15, 2019 @ 6:47pm
bubbles Dec 15, 2019 @ 7:32pm 
what a potty mouth!!
Mnemosynethemis Dec 15, 2019 @ 7:55pm 
Welcome to Steam forums....The OP has the right to ask about the profanity in the game, They are responsible for THEIR CHILD; What you do with your own children is your business. No need to tell others how to raise their kids. Can't believe how low people are today, nosey and want to automatically debate with someone elses parenting skills when they dont even know the person. For all we know the people giving "advice" to the OP aren't even good parents at all. At least the OP is trying to keep their child away from certain things and again IT IS their prerogative not yours.
Fynnpire Dec 15, 2019 @ 8:02pm 
Ahh yes, the classic "I'm OK with subjecting my kids to images of strong violence but don't you dare use any level of profanity!" style of parenting.
Last edited by Fynnpire; Dec 15, 2019 @ 8:02pm
Shamanu Dec 16, 2019 @ 9:29am 
Originally posted by Saturn4ce:
No need to tell others how to raise their kids. Can't believe how low people are today, nosey and want to automatically debate with someone elses parenting skills when they dont even know the person.

Originally posted by Saturn4ce:
For all we know the people giving "advice" to the OP aren't even good parents at all.

Originally posted by Saturn4ce:
IT IS their prerogative not yours.
Won't even comment your sentence. You did it yourself. Kinda... "none of your business" is the main idea. Just one comment to the last sentence: Why do the peoples feels good to dictate other peoples (read: developers) HOW to create a game? Their child is THEIR child. And "none of your business!" but creating a game (developer's child) is also their business. Dual standarts? Or what?

Explain yourself? I do HIGHLY doubt developers forces your with a barrel over your head kinda "Play our game or we'll pulll the trigger!".
Toast Dec 16, 2019 @ 10:51am 
To put things into perspective from the real world. No one is using profanity, so that's misconstrued. There is an expletive written somewhere -- that's different. Graffiti is considered an art form and a way of expression. It isn't strictly some hoodlums tagging up things. So take that with a grain of salt.
Last edited by Toast; Dec 16, 2019 @ 10:51am
Buddy Banchuk Dec 21, 2020 @ 2:02am 
Don't play the game then....You are only subjecting yourself to your own torture.
KnowledgeCoffee Dec 21, 2020 @ 3:55am 
If you let you child online at all.. Especially online games.. they will be subjected to much much worse than this
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