Hunger and Thirst is unreasonable

[Nex]

We're playing a game on normal and spending more time drinking and eating than we are focusing on the ship. Is there a way to tweak that?

[Willow Rivers]

When you get the advacned purifier and cooker then your problems will be solved.

The advanced cooker can cook the large fish which will fill your hunger with one fish and can also cook 3-4 smaller fish at the same time.

The advanced water purifier can purify 4 cups of water at a time, you can fully fill your thirst quickly.

Starting out it is a bit harder which is normal, you have to find a way to survive. Mid ot late game it is a non issue with the advanced equipment.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Originally posted by Dawg:

Yeah when you get better supplies you do not eat as often. It is survival, learn to survive. Most everyone else has figured it out. that is the whole game is surviving.

Hint use 4 water cooker/food cooker to start.

Another person who comes up with that stupid survival game excuse. Let me explain it to you: There are people who don´t regard eating those amounts of food per day as survival, it feels more like an eating simulator.
So your solution to a person that is annoyed by these silly amounts of food you have to eat is basically " get the advanced cooker and purifier". Really?
And the other advice of you to someone who is already annoyed by micromanaging hunger and thirst is to build several cooking stations?
Who in his right mind in a real survival situation would have several cooking stations, bercause one is not enough to fill up?

Seriously, it is just a cheap mechanic to keep us busy, since the game is very early in development and there is not much alse to do, but still it´s a crapmechanic that destroys immersion for a lot of people including myself.

[MW47]

You can live about three days without water
You can live about three weeks without food.

just let this number sink in. every damn survival game puts you on edge like, if you don't eat every 3 minutes you'll die, that's not fun at all. c'mon, i understand it's a game, but please tweak the eat/thirst, or at least make food more rare.

[Jigain]

Originally posted by MW47:

You can live about three days without water
You can live about three weeks without food.

just let this number sink in. every damn survival game puts you on edge like, if you don't eat every 3 minutes you'll die. c'mon, i understand it's a game, but please tweak the eat/thirst, or at least make food more rare.

While this is true, it is not exactly healthy. You will certainly not be fit to deep dive and fend off sharks after two days of starvation, much less three weeks.

As a counterpoint, consider this: To maintain body mass steadily for a 180cm tall man weighing 100 kilograms who's 30 years old, you need an intake of approximately 2700 calories per day. Meanwhile, an average fish fillet (grilled) contains approximately 125 calories. Since each fish has two sides, we can approximate one fish to contain 250 calories. 2700 / 250 gives us the amount of fishies we need to eat per day to not lose body mass (fat first, then muscle atrophy), which is 10.8 fishies per day. Which, I believe, is less than the game requires you to intake per day.

We can make the comparison with roast potatoes as well. One roast potato contains about 40-ish calories, giving us 2700 / 40 = 67.5 potatoes per day.

So yeah. While you are technically correct that you might still be alive after three weeks normally, a day or two tops should be the most you can maintain an active life before you start slowing down and atrophying. How long you could fend off a hungry shark in this state I cannot answer, but certainly not for three weeks.

[blacktomcat]

Originally posted by MW47:

You can live about three days without water
You can live about three weeks without food.

just let this number sink in. every damn survival game puts you on edge like, if you don't eat every 3 minutes you'll die, that's not fun at all. c'mon, i understand it's a game, but please tweak the eat/thirst, or at least make food more rare.

True but you don't stay on the strong side doing that....meaning: All that HEAVY hauling and deep diving would surely kill you quick^^

[Person14557]

Originally posted by MW47:

You can live about three days without water
You can live about three weeks without food.

just let this number sink in. every damn survival game puts you on edge like, if you don't eat every 3 minutes you'll die, that's not fun at all. c'mon, i understand it's a game, but please tweak the eat/thirst, or at least make food more rare.

Yeah, i mean i can kinda understand why you eat so much in other survival games as you move around so much but in this game for the most part you just stay on the raft. I think it should take longer to cook water and food and longer to catch fish but the percentage at which the food and water bar goes down should be decreased.

[Stranno]

Of course it is not realistic, you eat way too much, like 5.000 or 6.000 cals a day, not to mention the liters of water.

But tweaking it down could make the experience way too easy and boring.

But, as far as i saw, you dont die by dehydration in this game, you can stay in 0 water for long time, character just moves slowly and the display fades a bit.

[Vahnkiljoy]

It's only 'easy and boring' if they aren't tuned properly, you'd think with how many survival games there are out there devs would come to an understanding that people don't play these games to smash food/water into their face every 5 minutes. I know using RL logic doesn't work at all because 'gameplay' but you don't have to choke down bread or water every 5 minutes, why should you in a game.

Still waiting for that eating simulator game.

[Nex]

Actually, the other comments were right, the higher tier cooker and purifier really did help.

[Green777]

it also helps at the start to make 3 early grills and 3 purifiers.

[kingofkin]

Originally posted by MW47:

You can live about three days without water
You can live about three weeks without food.

just let this number sink in. every damn survival game puts you on edge like, if you don't eat every 3 minutes you'll die, that's not fun at all. c'mon, i understand it's a game, but please tweak the eat/thirst, or at least make food more rare.

and the day/night goes by alot faster in this game then it does in real life as well as we dont know what part of the globe we are on as well

[Sigh-Phi-Guy]

set up 2 bird nests per person.
they hold up to 3 eggs and ONE egg will max your food bar no matter how low your hunger is and they dont need cooking.
its the best food in the game IMO based on ease of gathering.

[Operation40]

raw egg needs nerfed lol.. they are rediculously overpowered..

but that's mid-game to me.. needs 2 giant clams to get a nest out.. 1 to reserach and 1 to build.. so, you're going to need to visit at least 1 island.. generally I've only found 1 giant clam per island..

I did get the hang of things finally and made it to the tower :) woot

[Gurkenscheibe]

well you are out on the sea working in the sun all day long.. of course you will need far more water and food than you would need sitting in front of your pc :D
i think it is ok since i do/did not really have any problem with food/water... just fill your chests and you are good to go

[Monkeh]

Originally posted by Dawg:

Yeah when you get better supplies you do not eat as often. It is survival, learn to survive. Most everyone else has figured it out. that is the whole game is surviving.

Hint use 4 water cooker/food cooker to start.

sure its totaly normal to eat 20 fish a day and trink 500 l of fresh water