Can I talk to Shadow after I go to the ECLSS

[Searry]

So Cobra said I should finish up in the Habitat before going further. Can I finish this quest after I go there? I think it's difficult to do it with my current Faythe and if she gets upgrades to the cloak and maybe a sneak feat she can do it.

[xarfaks]

No

You can only do the stealth part of this mission there and then.
You will be able to finish the quest even without doing the stealth part. Shadow will find an alternative solution. But you will miss out on some unique loot and the alternative root will force you into a difficult fight later after returning to the Pit.

[Searry]

Ok I guess I have to watch some youtube video so I don't brute force it for hours.

[Searry]

Ok apparently with sneak 6 it's impossible and you cannot find a thing that would let me past the cameras or give me more time with the cloaking device. I think you need Faythe to go full sneak build if you want to go for the eye then. Pretty annoying design with this particular area. How could I have known I have to do a perfect sneak build from the start of the game?

[skaudus]

Originally posted by Searry:

Ok apparently with sneak 6 it's impossible and you cannot find a thing that would let me past the cameras or give me more time with the cloaking device. I think you need Faythe to go full sneak build if you want to go for the eye then. Pretty annoying design with this particular area. How could I have known I have to do a perfect sneak build from the start of the game?

You don't have to do the heist to get past the Eye door. Shadow is resourceful and he'll show you another way when you return.

[William Shakesman]

Sneak 6 isn't what you need for the eye heist. I think Sneak 3 or 4 and Tunnel Runner is all you need.

[.//slayer]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Sneak 6 isn't what you need for the eye heist. I think Sneak 3 or 4 and Tunnel Runner is all you need.

I don't think you can avoid the cameras with just sneak 4. Maybe with a fully upgraded cloaking device, but I'm not sure you can even fully upgrade it by that point.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by .//slayer:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Sneak 6 isn't what you need for the eye heist. I think Sneak 3 or 4 and Tunnel Runner is all you need.

I don't think you can avoid the cameras with just sneak 4. Maybe with a fully upgraded cloaking device, but I'm not sure you can even fully upgrade it by that point.

Okay I checked, you're right I'm wrong. Sneak 4+Tunnel Runner+Faythe Thief is not enough to remove the camera red squares.

[.//slayer]

Thank you for checking - I wasn't sure myself, as I tried it the other day and failed, but thought it might have been a skill issue.

[William Shakesman]

I remember being at a point where it was borderline and having double run distance was the difference to clearing all the yellow zones, but I don't remember the exact numbers. I probably tagged Faythe's Sneak there as I had not been using it so let's say 6.

[Searry]

Yeah it wasn't possible for me. Instead I just blasted Shadow with long saved energy cells in mission control.

[William Shakesman]

What do you lose if you don't get the eye?

[xarfaks]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

What do you lose if you don't get the eye?

A unique energy pistol. That thing is basically a carbine pretending to be a pistol...
And you get the XP boost implant mod very late or not at all.

[grraf]

6sneak & upgraded stealth gadget is enough there: it will allow you to go in to grab the eye its just won't be enough to get back without raising the alarm(doesn't matter yo get to keep what you managed to steal and simply run away)

So on the right side the first camera is glitched out and never moves so you can chart a safe route when camera nr2 starts rotating towards camera nr3 once you are past camera nr2 go a bit towards the middle and carefully watch again for safe tiles as the two cameras rotate you will find no clear opening but this is where you start going towards camera nr3 as soon as nr2 starts rotating towards it and flip on he camo gadget to dart in trough the camera's vision(you should have 1 turn of full invisibility and a second round of partial cover) but will be enough to get you to the middle coffin to safely extract the eye and then go either left or right depending on what else you wish to grab an officer's energy pistol or a bridge officer upgrade chip.

PS:don't expect this^ to work with any build tho you either need a maxed out dex(or close to it) build or smth that has tunnel runner... in my particular case i had 12dex&camo gadget with full tier1 upgrades when i pulled it off.

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

it's one of the worst parts of the game:)
I think the minimum needed to partially get the items is Sneak 6, Cloak field tier 1 and tunnel rat perk.
it is possible to get Sneak 6 and cloak tier 1 if you do all the sneaking stuff with a single character during the first visit to the habitat but that means you will know the game perfectly.
You would still need a lot of dex and sneak to do the rest.
While you can cheese it for the eye it's not worth it, i wasted 2 hours there in the early access and it's very precise.
You will also lose track of whats happening since you will look at squares for a long time

[Searry]

No tunnel rat is what I'm guessing was the problem for me.