So I gather not as good as Operation Genesis.

[Dodece]

Speaking as someone that positively adored Operation Genesis. I cannot say as I have been all that impressed by what I have seen and heard about this game. In the spirit of judging a game by what it is as opposed to what it is not.

From my understanding it has been rushed to market, and as such is nowhere close to being a complete game. What I am seeing from the outside looking in is a fairly linear, and ultimately very tedious experience. With little to none of the openness that would warrant a replay after the first playthrough. Provided I don't grow bored with the game, and quit halfway through that.

As it stands now it looks like it would offer me between ten to twenty hours of mild entertainment. I generally prefer to see at the very least one hour of fun for each dollar spent. This means that I probably shouldn't pull the trigger until this game gets down to around fifteen dollars. That being said once again based upon my understanding that this game was rushed.

Which leads me to ask the question of whether it is what it is, or whether the developer intends to make it into something much more. Which might be worth considerably more in my eyes. I must confess that I haven't paid all that much attention to this title. So I am not aware of any long term goals they have for this title.

I guess me question is this. Should I just let it sit in my wishlist until it hits my target pricepoint, or should I check back in say three to six months from now to see if the developers have stepped up their game, and no I am not talking about adding new buildings, and introducing new species to the game. Which I gather they intend to charge extra for anyway. I am thinking about the core game itself. Which frankly as it stands now looks like little more then a mobile game, and those aren't worth anything close to sixty dollars.

[Eldar]

Oh no, it is better than Operation Genesis. It is a little disappointing especially if you hyped it up a lot, but it is definitely far better than Operation Genesis (Which, despite the modding community, is a very simple and definitely limited game because of it's age).

I think a lot of people have rose tinted glasses when it comes to JPOG. Don't get me wrong, I spent a lot of time the past few weeks playing JPOG waiting for this to release and it is a good game, but this game is better in almost every way (Except Dinosaur AI, which is weird).

[Dodece]

Originally posted by Eldar:

Oh no, it is better than Operation Genesis. It is a little disappointing especially if you hyped it up a lot, but it is definitely far better than Operation Genesis (Which, despite the modding community, is a very simple and definitely limited game because of it's age).

I think a lot of people have rose tinted glasses when it comes to JPOG. Don't get me wrong, I spent a lot of time the past few weeks playing JPOG waiting for this to release and it is a good game, but this game is better in almost every way (Except Dinosaur AI, which is weird).

Sometimes simple is exactly what one wants out of a game. I am not a fan of the scenario model when it comes to these types of games. They tend to make these types of games restrictive and linear. Which tends to result in them having a terribly short shelf life. Which is why my question basically amounts to whether the developer has any intention to add girth to their game moving forward.

Without a traditional park building mode this game only has its scenarios. Which makes it more of a run and done affair, and for me if that run and done is almost certain to be under twenty hours it is nowhere close to being worth sixty dollars. While Operation Genesis may be very dated at this point. The game itself is still an example of open-ended gameplay.

Mind you I haven't played that game in many many years, but that is kind of aside from the point. I am not demanding or expecting that from this game. I have no problem with a game effectively being on rails, but if the game is on rails having virtually no replay potential. I have to get it at the right price.

Anyway the question isn't about which game is better, but whether the community thinks that the developer is likely to add girth to their game now that it has been released. If they are going to be bulking their game up into something better. It will be worth my time to check in from time to time to see if the value proposition has improved. If they are just intending to add cosmetics then I can get all of those in a game of the year edition in a couple years time.

[Mr.Sentinazo]

It has sandbox with unlimited money and you can restart every island to 0 so you can build in them what you want when you have everything unlocked as a regular sandbox.

[Chief Kay Strongbow]

Leave it on the wishlist, it's a good game but it has plenty of faults. If you have watched some gameplay you may find that it isn't for you, it is absolutely for me and I don't regret my purchase for a second..

I believe frontier WILL iron out the problems and make a great game, I trust them from my own experience with Planet Coaster. How long that takes them though, who knows.

Everyone wants to compare this game to JPOG, and that's exactly how you end up being disappointed imo. I never played it so I can't even compare, but I myself have done this with other games. Gotta take it at face value if you ask me, don't think they were trying to make JPOG 2


As for play time, I'm 25 hours in and just getting to the 5th and last island and I have not touched the sandbox island yet. I don't know if I will go back to it after playing with sandbox mode but I can see at least another 10 hours of gameplay, if not more, by the time I'm done. Then I'll just be waiting for some updates, new dinos, possibly new features, this is definitely a game I will come back to in the future.

For now, only you can decide if you think it's worth it. I do agree it is a bit expensive for what it is, but I also think no one would be complaining if it was say $30 instead of the current $60.

[Lucius]

I think this looks boring compared to JPOG. Does it even have a tornado? Does it even have a Site B where dinos could just roam freely without fences? I heard its sandbox mode has a very confined Isla Nublar that's limited in size.

All this for $60? No thanks. GTA V had a lot more content than this. THAT's worth $60. Not this.

[Phi11]

Yes there's tornados. To each their own. Watch videos of others playing...make a judgement. I've played jpog since the day it came out. I appreciate it for what it is but I enjoy this game a tad more. I messed with site b very little on jpog...there's no objective to it.... release Dino's....watch them for a bit...I would get bored. I'm more into managing a park...that's just me.

[Jmh1000]

I find it interesting that people can actually consider JPOG better than this game. I mean, everyone likes different things but to me, after 35 hours, this game is unquestionably better than JPOG>

[Aramus418]

The "Sandbox" on Nublar feels restrictive because you don't have enough room for every dino and the infrastructure to support such a park within the valley they give you. That said, the area dwarfs anything you could generate on JPOG. I wish they'd give us a sandbox big enough for everything, but for those who want to compare with JPOG, pick half of the dinos from the full list of 48: that park will fit easily and it'll still have twice what JPOG had.

[Drages]

Game got very limited content, ai and no replay value. But some people enjoy it and think that devs will handle the problems. So if you finish it and wait for something to return, I don't think it wouldbe good idea because you will be bored already. For that reason, let it stay at wishlist and later if it gets better go for full experience. This is what I plan to do.

[V I D A L]

I think this is better and more polished than Operation Genesis. It got rid of some useless mechanics and gimicks to give place to features that serves gameplay. The campaign will give you 30 to 50 houts of gameplay. Much more if you want to complete all dinos.
The people that are complaining about this game not giving you as much freedon as Operation Genesis is that kind of gamer who never finishes a GTA.. only play it to cause havok in the city and sandbox around aimlessly until they get tired of it without berely doing the story missions. Very different games, but it get my point across.

[Aramus418]

I unlocked everything a week ago. I'm playing through again island by island with everything unlocked. Yea, electrified concrete walls and large power stations (edit: and I should add lessons learned concerning space management and crisis response skills. Knowing what do do when certain problems pop up [hint: act quickly] goes a long way to hack down the busy work) make a lot of things easier, but I'm also making each island the best park it can be. To each his own, but that sounds suspiciously like REPLAY VALUE to me. Just my 2 cents.

[Drages]

Some people can do same thing much more then regular people. Like grinning at mmo. But other people look some different possibilities to continue that game. As some people likes this very much but others didn't so much.
If you enjoy that, really nice for you. But not for majority.

[Bedoune]

This is something really subjective, but I'd say that each game has its own strengths.
JPOG had things that aren't in JWE, but JWE has a huge potential. It's developped by Frontier and we can expect a lot of content and fixes in the near future, as well as a continued dev support for years.
If you are patient enough, JWE will objectively become a better game than JPOG. For now it definitely lacks content and has some bugs.

[Obahar_]

Originally posted by Aramus418:

That said, the area dwarfs anything you could generate on JPOG.

I think you need to watch a video or play it again because you couldn't be more wrong.
Even using the smallest island size on JPOG's slider is larger than Nublar in terms of space.

Set the slider to maximum and it automatically shapes it fairly square-like, perfect for a sandbox mode and more than double JWE's sandbox map at least. And thats the vanilla slider!

If Frontier had made a JPOG2 or just an anniversary edition with new dinos added I feel there'd be way less complaints about the lack of content as well as the lack of a sandbox mode thats actually entertaining. I don't want infinite money, I want to build the park from scratch but I'm not even given an option and all the other islands are too small and mishapen, if I still had a disk drive installed I'd probably be playing JPOG right now!

[Drages]

Problem is not potantiel here, it's universal. As I sy always, this is a kid toy for universal and they don't want blood or mind games on it.