JPOG was "better"

[Inardesco]

So...argument #1; "JPOG waz better" but it really wasn't...

Ok, so I played it yesterday, large map sure but I only used 1/5th of the island to get 5*.

Herding, sure, animals of the same species stay relatively together but they also just bugger off in random directions.

Guests hardly have any input, the only noticeable input was when I hit a Gallimimus with the safari car and people shouted abuse. Once they were gone the visitor count stabilised again.

Raptors, T-Rex and Acracanthosaurus never tried to escape, despite low security fence. I checked fence for damage, only the large herbivore paddock showed some signs of damage.

So, how did I spend most of my time? Well, I waited...I waited on new fossils that were brought in through digsites and I waited on new fossils through the fossil market...

Ok, so pack hunting. Sure, raptors picked a single cow to eat but thats it.

So I'm failing to see the things JPOG does actually better, aside from the visitors. That just ignored parts of my park for whatever reasons. They seemed more interested in the amenities than the dinosaurs. I doubt many of them saw the Raptors or T-Rex.

So, does it allow for much customization in terms of buildings? Not really, fewer buildings than JW:E.

Does it have better dino AI? Not really, it just uses the AI differently. JPOG AI has dinos run half a mile against the fences, JW:E AI atleast recognise the fences.
Sure, "herding" is a thing but at the same time not. JW:E animals actually get stressed without same specie animals. JPOG animals couldn't care less if its 100 animals or 1.

But they SLEEP!!!!! Wow, such awesome.

But mah park management!! Oh, those janitors you dump down and forget about? Those builfings you dump down and set prices for...once. The only price I raised was park entry and that was so ridiculous I could triple the price between 0 and 1 star and still it'd be moderately soon, so thats broken and I sat at max price 3 stars in.

Yeah but mah digsites better!!! Oh sure, you get dig team, place m on digsite and wait. Sometimes they get fossil or amber or nothing or gems. And then they become income source cuz you sell the 100% genomes automatically.

From time to time you just send them somewhere else but surely those 15 species (5 digsites 3 species each) give soooo much customization right...right! Cuz you take 3 automaticaly if you want Spino, Rex and Raptor so...you only pick 1 site really.

For all the shouting on this forum on how JPOG is superiour I whole-heartedly disagree. Theres hardly any management in JPOG, a lot of it waiting, a short burst of expansion and more waiting. Sonme research and dna extractiom but thats it.

The only thing that is better is the mail system with all the messages that can be opened when you have time for it instead of missing them like in JW:E cuz you're doing something else.

Thats it.

[ChibiFenrir]

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ChibiFenrir lähetti viestin:

I think everyone is missing the point, JP:OG is about 15 years old and has just as much content as JW:E. JW:E doesn't really add much more and then lacks a lot that JP:OG had, which it should off had all that and more, and it doesn't. it barely has more content then a game made 15ish years ago. Sure they can add more in patches but that doesn't excuse that currently is only slightly better then game made 15 years ago. it's not like JP:OG is a recent game it's old and a modern game is barly got more content then it is a issue.

Uhm...what? How does JPOG have more content when having;
* less dinosaurs per park (15 species max)
* less building customization
* less dino management; Rex and Raptors in low security fence cuz they never escape
* hardly any visitor input
* less research capeabilities
* larger islands don't constitute to much when all you need is one large paddock for herbivores and only carnivores are seperate

I didn't say it had more content I said JW:E has barly more content then a 15 year old game.
and you can put rex and raptores in low security fences in JW:E and they won't escape, well raptors might cause they're pricks, but rex won't hell even indom won't xD fences don't change there chances off escape just the time it takes them to destory them. which most off the fences die in 3-7ish hits it don't really matter.

and JW:E truely doesn't have 42 dino's only acutally about 10. most just use the same animations, models, rigging just slightly diff textures/skin. it's like having say a red car, you paint it green and put a sticker on it, it's the same car but sure it looks slight different that is what most off the dino's in JW:E are.

vistor input is the same o.O legit no difference, tbh the vistors in JP:OG where probley better done, cause they had diff types that want to see diff things, but in JW:E it's just a star rating with a presentages amount.


And again JP:OG is 15 years old and JW:E has bearly more content.

You're paying $60ish dollars for a game that is slightly better then a game made 15 years ago. This game should be way more then just slightly better, and I can't understand why people are defending it, I guess people's standeds are so low now days and will just accept anything instead off seeing this game for what it is, a slight improvement over a game made a decade and a half ago. I actually really love JW:E but for the price and compared to JP:OG it should be better much, much better.

[Inardesco]

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vistor input is the same o.O legit no difference, tbh the vistors in JP:OG where probley better done, cause they had diff types that want to see diff things, but in JW:E it's just a star rating with a presentages amount.

The only moment visitor input had any noticeable impact on my park last night was when I hit a Gallimimus with the safari jeep. One instance, in 3-4 hours of gameplay. So yeah....I stick to my words; Hardly any visitor input.

ChibiFenrir lähetti viestin:

I guess people's standeds are so low

I think you're forgetting one major part of why people play video games; because they want to have FUN. That means something different for everyone.

Some people enjoy CS:GO, some people enjoy Leage of Legends, others enjoy Asetto Corsa and again others enjoy Call of Duty or Battlefield.

And maybe it sounds weird to you, but there are people that enjoy Jurassic World: Evolution.

Personally, the hour that I played wasn't enjoyable. I had nothing to do while waiting for cashflow and when I did have something to do, the camera was annoying the living hell out of me to the point I just quit the game and haven't touched it since, hoping that the Fallen Kingdom update will amend this. If it doesn't amend my issues, I'll refund and come back later.

So maybe you should stop speaking for everyone and should consider that some like the colour red even though you're a fervent fanatic fan of green.

[Woody]

JPOG is a superior game IMHO.

Dino behavior. You could actually set up an ecosystem in an enclosure. In this game it is impossible to add certain dinos togehter. The herbivores seem to wait to be killed most times. Dino like the trike do not stand their ground together against predators. Carnivores just continue to kill until evrything they can kill is dead.

Park guest in this game do not have indivdual needs and do not actually travel from one point to another in the park. Buildings spawn them based on dino and park ratings. It also does not really matter where you place shops or attractions in this game. The only important thing with shops is what buildings fall within their AOE. I had one shop servicing 2 viewing platform and monorail station. If guest actually travelled on the path from those buildings to the shop they would of had to walk all the way across the map and back.

This game has very limited design options.

Very limited management. Make an enclosure, add a dino or two and build a viewing platform and you are making money. Can not hire or fire employees. Only 2 types in this game. The rangers that ride in the jeep and the ones that ride in the helicopter.

What really stood out to me was the dino behavior and design options. A game from 15 years ago did it better.

This game beats JPOG when comparing graphics which is to be expected for most games when comparring them to games from 15 years ago.

[Bjorbd]

Electricity fence looks stupid in this game it cost electricity but it seems nothing to dinos.
Nothing can stop dino escaping if they are in bad mood....Even a pracer can break a double wall in seconds(cemet+ele fence)
If u treating dinos in right way they may stay happy in a grass fence........

No sequence for research/fosil team.
No auto reapir and resupply......
User Hostile design.

[Bjorbd]

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I think everyone is missing the point, JP:OG is about 15 years old and has just as much content as JW:E. JW:E doesn't really add much more and then lacks a lot that JP:OG had, which it should off had all that and more, and it doesn't. it barely has more content then a game made 15ish years ago. Sure they can add more in patches but that doesn't excuse that currently is only slightly better then game made 15 years ago. it's not like JP:OG is a recent game it's old and a modern game is barly got more content then it is a issue.

Uhm...what? How does JPOG have more content when having;
* less dinosaurs per park (15 species max)
* less building customization
* less dino management; Rex and Raptors in low security fence cuz they never escape
* hardly any visitor input
* less research capeabilities
* larger islands don't constitute to much when all you need is one large paddock for herbivores and only carnivores are seperate

JPOG doing better in management(gaming) part.

[Cmdo.Delta]

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I agree with you. JP:OG is one of my favorite games when I was younger. This beats it out of the water, people are not looking at the future also. Patches, upcoming free Fallen Kingdom DLC, confirmed Aquatic & Flying DLC. Meh, don't be mad. This game had a great launch and it's a great spiritual successor to JP:OG. I love them both. This game actually gave me challenge to get 5 stars and yes, it's easier on JP:OG. Oh and more dinosaurs and customization on them ;) Can't wait for Indoraptor!

Future, nuff said! JWE will grow bigger and better. Jpog had mods, we will have professional grade upgrades. Why are people thinking That JWE is not good just cuz of no mod support?

JWE in its current state can be a slide 40+h. With improvement they will bring, all be even better.

[Inardesco]

You mean those handful of mods, half abandoned and forgotten?