$60 for a glorified mobile game. Thanks for the refund option Volvo!

[Gift]

Anyone having buyer's remorse?

Game is as wide as an ocean but only as deep as a puddle. So many bugs and content is so limited! How was this game released in this state? I expected more... I'm glad you can refund in Steam. Also, I'm a veteran of JPOG so I will be comparing them both in here

Negatives of the game are as follows:
- The game was rushed to coincide with the new jurrasic park movie.
^ this alone shall tell you the game is designed to be a CASH GRAB
- all the thousand bugs this game has needs to be ironed out
- no workshop or modsupport which again leads to game being a CASH GRAB.
^ Just wait for the overpriced DLC's

- the dinosaurs don't really interact with each other in meaningful ways. None whatsoever
^ there is no herding and pack hunting like in JPOG. dino ai is very LIMITED
- dino animation needs serious improvements. they have limited animations, only 1 each
- dinos behave very scripted and are for example ignoring guests inside the enclosure
- SCRIPTED PREDICTABLE DINOS ARE BORING
- we have limited interaction with the dinos when this is a freaking dinosaur theme park
^ I should be able to for example kill a dinosaur or use tranquilizer on it etc..

- the modern buildings and attractions look bland and uninspired
- no meaningful building/shop customisation beside paint and name
- no little details such as being able to put parkbenches, statues, flowerbeds etc.
- the guests feel so soulless and boring. they have 0 personality and you have 0 interaction
^ guests behave so simply they dont even have preferences, nothing
^ I should be able to interact with guests more and fulfill their needs
- just the park in general feels dead and empty

- quests are shallow and lacklustre, offering no sense of accomplishment. very tedious
- sandbox is locked behind a 4 star rating on your first island. You have to do campaign 1st
- this is a management game yet we have next to 0 management options
- this is a theme park game yet our building space is so LIMITED as in VERY LIMITED
- you sit around a lot of the time doing nothing and waiting for the timers to finish

WHAT THIS GAME LACKS THE MOST = DEPTH
- It's nowhere near Planet Coaster in terms of creativity, customization and variety.
- It's nowhere near Cities Skylines in terms of scale and control.
- Right now the game is very limiting, boring, repetitive and tedious.

I had high hopes considering you guys made Planet Coaster and I enjoyed the heck out of that game even though the management aspects of that game was quite lacking.

I'm surprised you guys didn't incorporate a lot of features from Planet Coaster to this new game you developed. Planet Coaster gave you so much creativity, customization, variety and it felt alive! Why can't this game be like that?

If anyone knows of the Devs, can you bring this issues up to them? I'm sure the game will be a 10/10 if the Devs fix the issues listed here. That's all they need to fix and this game will be a masterpiece! I'll check up in a year's time and see if all these have been fixed.

TLDR: You had one job, make a modern version of JPOG, and you ♥♥♥♥ed it up.

[Dave]

DarkShadow님이 먼저 게시:

Those of you having fun playing the game as it is should just go play the game and let the rest of us ask for additional features we want and expect in a AAA game. You guys can play game as it is and just ignore the additional features if and when they are added. Just don't go around defending the Devs. Let them do it themselves.

I'm not defending the devs at all.. but if people rip apart a game over subjective stuff.. then yeah.. ill give them a hard time.

[TACTICS]

OP is spot on, I just requested a refund. I honestly gave it a go and it fell short in every aspect. It's definitely not worth the price tag. I'll buy it again, if they ever add more depth to the game. Not keeping my hopes up though.

[DarkShadow]

Those of you having fun playing the game as it is should just go play the game and let the rest of us ask for additional features we want and expect in a AAA game. You guys can play game as it is and just ignore the additional features if and when they are added. Just don't go around defending the Devs or the game. Let them do it themselves.

[JP23_Chaos]

I agree with some of your negative points. Regardless I myself do not play mobile games at all. Im alittle too old fashion to use a phone as a "gaming" device...just not for me. anyways, I agree, as I probably mentioned before, the game is far from flawless, there are many things that needs added, fixed or changed.

But that is the devs job and I am not here to argue on their behalf. All I can say is that I have enjoyed the game so far and I am sure I will get much fun out of it...if more is added in the future I am sure I will only enjoy it more. To me the slope can only go up from here.

I hatched my first 4 raptors today..what an experience, but its going well as they are comfortable and not tearing at the fences. Infact they have yet to break out at all. I find myself taking hundreds of screenshots every time I play. The game's visuals alone have me hooked.

I think anyone who does not find the things they hope for are very justified in telling the devs about it. I find your text to be well written and thought out. I am never one to shrink from an exchange of ideas and honestly you will get no hostility from me at all. I hope in the future the things you pointed out are fixed at least to enough of a degree you'd find the game more enjoyable. I silently wish everyone would be in awe of the simple pleasure it brings, but thankfully not everyone is like me :P

I wouldn't call the game a cash grab, however. Considering it's a liscensed title I paid around 60$ for, I found that quite reasonable. Hell I bought Total War: Warhammer II at full price when it launched and I still play it to this day (around 80$). And in all honesty I have seen faaaaar faaaaaaar worse cash grabs then this. Many I was fortunate enough not to fall into.

As always, its a question of different likes and tastes, which is as always a very personal thing. To each their own.

For your viewing pleasure:

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/914675609298574544/F0E2BB4CE83E4FA5089384DFAE016D5DC0EDC574/

[Gift]

Jannor님이 먼저 게시:

a defenceless schoolgirl님이 먼저 게시:

Yeah I'm surprised they have 0 moderators here as well as no "Hey Guys, here's our roadmap for the upcoming future!" It reeks of a lack of concern to their customers

To be fair, they have been speaking with people on their official forums :) perhaps check it out? Simply a suggestion :)

Great, I will. Thanks! Man always a pleasure to discuss things with you :)

[JP23_Chaos]

a defenceless schoolgirl님이 먼저 게시:

Jannor님이 먼저 게시:

To be fair, they have been speaking with people on their official forums :) perhaps check it out? Simply a suggestion :)

Great, I will. Thanks! Man always a pleasure to discuss things with you :)

Well i like to think polite conversation still exsists XD. I've done my share of verbal violence but I usually turn it to something comedic instead. People can be so...passionate on gaming forums. Is that a good word? idk.

[blackfrog]

To be fair, the game's first downloadable content pack WILL be free (Fallen Kingdom patch), not counting the deluxe edition dinosaurs, which I really think it was nice of them to leave up for sale on the store.
The game in term of customization could be a little more in depth as of now there are no decorations to put in your park (not that JPOG had many more, seeing as people here just LOVE to compare the two).
Animal behaviour is not that terrible, in the limited space they give you it's pretty good (and the space is more than enough to make various exhibits if planned right), having bigger areas I would agree it would need more.

[Zeradus]

TallBear님이 먼저 게시:

This is NOTHING like a mobile game ..I do agree with some of your points.. but mostly you are way off base

also the devs do NOT read the steam forums.. go post this on their official forums if you want them to read it

if you don't like the game.. dont buy it.. or refund it.. and go complain to the devs

Actually the dev team does have a representative on here.

BrettC_Frontier [developer]

[Imperator1125]

I am with Tallbear, simulation games are slow paced games. If you prefer decisive action I recommend an RPG esk game (Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Pillars of Eternity, ETC.). This game actually is my joy of playing a game I couldn't get from the release of the original "Jurassic Park" movie's. Remember there was a game just like this one only for the original.....guess the movie ain't the only revival!

[Daeva The Shadow Demon]

a defenceless schoolgirl님이 먼저 게시:

Anyone having buyer's remorse?

Game is as wide as an ocean but only as deep as a puddle. So many bugs and content is so limited! How was this game released in this state? I expected more... I'm glad you can refund in Steam. Also, I'm a veteran of JPOG so I will be comparing them both in here

Negatives of the game are as follows:
- The game was rushed to coincide with the new jurrasic park movie.
^ this alone shall tell you the game is designed to be a CASH GRAB
- all the thousand bugs this game has needs to be ironed out
- no workshop or modsupport which again leads to game being a CASH GRAB.
^ Just wait for the overpriced DLC's

- the dinosaurs don't really interact with each other in meaningful ways. None whatsoever
^ there is no herding and pack hunting like in JPOG. dino ai is very LIMITED
- dino animation needs serious improvements. they have limited animations, only 1 each
- dinos behave very scripted and are for example ignoring guests inside the enclosure
- SCRIPTED PREDICTABLE DINOS ARE BORING
- we have limited interaction with the dinos when this is a freaking dinosaur theme park
^ I should be able to for example kill a dinosaur or use tranquilizer on it etc..

- the modern buildings and attractions look bland and uninspired
- no meaningful building/shop customisation beside paint and name
- no little details such as being able to put parkbenches, statues, flowerbeds etc.
- the guests feel so soulless and boring. they have 0 personality and you have 0 interaction
^ guests behave so simply they dont even have preferences, nothing
^ I should be able to interact with guests more and fulfill their needs
- just the park in general feels dead and empty

- quests are shallow and lacklustre, offering no sense of accomplishment. very tedious
- sandbox is locked behind a 4 star rating on your first island. You have to do campaign 1st
- this is a management game yet we have next to 0 management options
- this is a theme park game yet our building space is so LIMITED as in VERY LIMITED
- you sit around a lot of the time doing nothing and waiting for the timers to finish

WHAT THIS GAME LACKS THE MOST = DEPTH
- It's nowhere near Planet Coaster in terms of creativity, customization and variety.
- It's nowhere near Cities Skylines in terms of scale and control.
- Right now the game is very limiting, boring, repetitive and tedious.

I had high hopes considering you guys made Planet Coaster and I enjoyed the heck out of that game even though the management aspects of that game was quite lacking.

I'm surprised you guys didn't incorporate a lot of features from Planet Coaster to this new game you developed. Planet Coaster gave you so much creativity, customization, variety and it felt alive! Why can't this game be like that?

If anyone knows of the Devs, can you bring this issues up to them? I'm sure the game will be a 10/10 if the Devs fix the issues listed here. That's all they need to fix and this game will be a masterpiece! I'll check up in a year's time and see if all these have been fixed.

TLDR: You had one job, make a modern version of JPOG, and you ♥♥♥♥ed it up.

You are forgeting a very big detail in your argument. This game came out yesterday.
There are going to be bugs and glitches as well as unadded features. No game is perfect when they are released, I bet Planet Coaster had just as many problems when it came out. Yes there are issues that need to be smoothed out, but that is the same with all new games. Some more holes in your argument/post;

1. The lack of workshop and mod support can easily be the result of it being a new game. The devs have to make it so the game can be compatable with things not coded in the vanilla version.
   
2. You can use a tranqualizer on a dinosaur. You press T or go the the Asset Containment Unit *ACU* and click on the helicopter. If you either fly it and press R, or click add task and click on a dinosaur you can tranq. it.
   
3. Where was there pack hunting in JPOG? Where did the dinos work together in an actual pack formation to kill something? The closest thing is when a group of raptors just hurl themselves without formation at and latch onto another dinosaur. Everything else just runs after their target individually. Granted I've never seen pack hunting in JWE, but I never release anything other than goats into a carnivore paddock.
   
4. The dinos have different calls, animations, and personalities. Would you really like it better if there were repeat animations like in Jurassic World the Game? No, nobody would.
   
5. The dinosaurs are in all very difficult to take care of, and that's a good thing. It makes it challenging to keep them happy. There are barely any scripted events that control the dinos, everything is pretty much random so that you basically have about 75% control! If you think you do have everything under control, you don't. To quote Ian Malcom from JP; "The amount of control you have, it's just not possible." You most of the time will be surprised by a dino breaking out of it's enclosure. Another quote from him; "Life finds a way."
   
6. From what I remember, you never could interact with a guest in JPOG either. All you could do was look at what they thought, how much money that had, and what dinos they saw and their score.
   
7. The sandbox being locked is actually a smart move on the devs part. It makes it seem more earned if you have to get through the campain first. I wouldn't like it as much if you could just have unlimited money and dinosaur species right at the beginning. It would basically be like an uber easy mode for JPOG...
   
8. If you are sitting around waiting for a timer you aren't plaing right. There is stuff to do everywhere! Make new dinosaurs! Upgrade and change current enclosures.

Although the biggest problem that I have with some of the community and this very post is how you are comparing it to Jurassic Park Operstion Genesis. This game wasn't made to be a fan service to all the greedy players that just want another JPOG, it was made to be it's own game. The developer's job was not to make a better JPOG, but to make something that they wanted to make, that they could pour their heart and soul into and continue upgrading it through the passage of time!

Look at this game through different eyes. Not as a modern JPOG, but as what it is. A game about managing a park, keeping both dinos and people happy. Adding new dinos and buildings to keep the audience happy, and making enclosures better for the dinos.

[Dave]

Warhurst님이 먼저 게시:

TallBear님이 먼저 게시:

This is NOTHING like a mobile game ..I do agree with some of your points.. but mostly you are way off base

also the devs do NOT read the steam forums.. go post this on their official forums if you want them to read it

if you don't like the game.. dont buy it.. or refund it.. and go complain to the devs

Actually the dev team does have a representative on here.

BrettC_Frontier [developer]

They do, but he doesn't take bug reports, etc off the steam forums. My point is they have CLEARLY said to send all bug reports/feedback to their forums

[DetCord12B]

Given what FD brought to the table with Elite Dangerous, is anyone suprised? After all of the free updates and DLC additions Elite is still completely and utterly boring. Frontier may have some of the best sound and game artists in the business. They run with that.

What they can’t seem to do is create a game which isn’t a vacuous, tedious mess.

Everyone I've spoken with that's played it repeats the same thing time and again. It's fun for the first 8-10 hours. Then the initial nostalgia factor wears off and it's rinse and repeat gameplay. There is no park customization, no business managment aspects other than topical, no guest AI that reacts to what you do or don't do, no story to speak of and basically no game.

The description of I've heard stated over and over is that it's a dinosaur breeding game with mobile like meta gameplay components.

EDIT - If that's your thing go for it. Just don't expect anything else.

[Dave]

I'm on the 3rd island.. Ive put in about 20 hrs of gameplay. I'm not even close to being bored. look at other games like resident evil.. after 8 hrs you're done.. and that's an 80$ game

and no there's nothing mobile about it.. you dont "wait" by the 3rd island you are so darn busy.. you MIGHT.. and mean MIGHT wait for 30-60s here and there.. but there's so much going on. too many people judged the game by the first island..

[Daeva The Shadow Demon]

TallBear님이 먼저 게시:

I'm on the 3rd island.. Ive put in about 20 hrs of gameplay. I'm not even close to being bored. look at other games like resident evil.. after 8 hrs you're done.. and that's an 80$ game

and no there's nothing mobile about it.. you dont "wait" by the 3rd island you are so darn busy.. you MIGHT.. and mean MIGHT wait for 30-60s here and there.. but there's so much going on. too many people judged the game by the first island..

Yeah, the third island is so stressful since I'm just trying to scrape together enough money to buy a hatchery!

[☭ 吉岡里帆 WH ☭]

TallBear님이 먼저 게시:

I'm on the 3rd island.. Ive put in about 20 hrs of gameplay. I'm not even close to being bored. look at other games like resident evil.. after 8 hrs you're done.. and that's an 80$ game

and no there's nothing mobile about it.. you dont "wait" by the 3rd island you are so darn busy.. you MIGHT.. and mean MIGHT wait for 30-60s here and there.. but there's so much going on. too many people judged the game by the first island..

Off topic but which resident evil r u saying?? $80 is ridiculous.. Is it in usd?