Any mods that make dinosaurs accurate?

[~* BiZZ Keryear *~]

Any mods that make dinosaurs more accurate?
I mean feathers ... most had feathers. (Not in the movies, because they are based on a movie that is so old that they didn't know better, but now we do)

[TheZeroNeonix]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Yeah...That part on how the Tyrannosaurus would "fall over" is just utterly stupid and the most bs I've heard in a while.

Sounds pretty accurate to me. Ever seen an animal the size of an elephant standing on two legs? All the weight crashing down would be more than enough to shatter bones.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by TheZeroNeonix:

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Yeah...That part on how the Tyrannosaurus would "fall over" is just utterly stupid and the most bs I've heard in a while.

Sounds pretty accurate to me. Ever seen an animal the size of an elephant standing on two legs? All the weight crashing down would be more than enough to shatter bones.

If you know anything about the Tyrannosaurus Rex you know that it has MASSIVE tail muscles in order to balance the massive jaw muscles it has. Which means, it will never fall over in the way presented in the video simply because the point of balance would be near the hind legs, not the head of the animal.

Research by the University of Alberta has also shown that the Caudofemoralis of the Tyrannosaur shows that it was attached high on the femur. This positioning meant that the muscle could contract the legs in rapid motions, in contrast, hadrosaur muscles were attached lower on the femur, meaning the legs couldn't be contracted in rapid motions but it would also use less energy to contract the legs. [ https://www.ualberta.ca/newtrail/featurestories/who-is-faster-tyrannosaur-or-hadrosaur ]

So no. Tyrannosaur was very much capeable of running without breaking anything.

Edit; It seems I have made a small mistake in regards to how the muscle contractions give the speed. The Tyrannosaurs higher muscle attachment meant more powerful steps whereas the hadrosaur lower muscle attachment meant weaker and shorter steps.

[TheZeroNeonix]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

If you know anything about the Tyrannosaurus Rex you know that it has MASSIVE tail muscles in order to balance the massive jaw muscles it has. Which means, it will never fall over in the way presented in the video simply because the point of balance would be near the hind legs, not the head of the animal.

Research by the University of Alberta has also shown that the Caudofemoralis of the Tyrannosaur shows that it was attached high on the femur. This positioning meant that the muscle could contract the legs in rapid motions, in contrast, hadrosaur muscles were attached lower on the femur, meaning the legs couldn't be contracted in rapid motions but it would also use less energy to contract the legs. [ https://www.ualberta.ca/newtrail/featurestories/who-is-faster-tyrannosaur-or-hadrosaur ]

So no. Tyrannosaur was very much capeable of running without breaking anything.

Edit; It seems I have made a small mistake in regards to how the muscle contractions give the speed. The Tyrannosaurs higher muscle attachment meant more powerful steps whereas the hadrosaur lower muscle attachment meant weaker and shorter steps.

Well, yeah, it has a good center of balance, but that doesn't mean it is immune from tripping. It also doesn't mean that tripping while running at high speeds would not be fatal. If I'm not mistaken, a lot of biggger dinosaurs, including the t-rex, had hollow bones. This hollow structure made them lighter, but I expect they would crack under sever thousand tons of pressure when colliding with the ground. I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong and those hollow bones are actually super efficient at displacing pressure without breaking, but I imagine a 30mph collision would look like a car crash.

[Inardesco]

It seems you misunderstand the purpose of pneumatized, or hollow bones. Yes, in modern birds they ensure the skeleton is lighter but their primary function, is to aid in the respiratory system of the animal. It's due to pneumatized vertebra that Sauropods were able to grow such enormous necks.

Pneumatized/hollow bones also contain many struts within to ensure integrity and are generally stiffer than non-pneumatized bones to aid in bone strength. That said, I've yet to read anything about the Tyrannosaur having pneumatized bones.

[ https://curiosity.com/topics/bird-bones-are-hollow-to-help-them-fly-but-not-in-the-way-you-think-curiosity/ ]

[Jynn]

Remeber that even animals today will take risky chances if it means survival.

Giraffes run at 37 MPH and tripping for them can be equally fatal if they happen to fall while sprinting full speed...and yet they DO sprint full speed to escape danger. If the risks are worth it, animals will take the risk.

Just pointing out =P

[TheZeroNeonix]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

It seems you misunderstand the purpose of pneumatized, or hollow bones. Yes, in modern birds they ensure the skeleton is lighter but their primary function, is to aid in the respiratory system of the animal. It's due to pneumatized vertebra that Sauropods were able to grow such enormous necks.

Pneumatized/hollow bones also contain many struts within to ensure integrity and are generally stiffer than non-pneumatized bones to aid in bone strength. That said, I've yet to read anything about the Tyrannosaur having pneumatized bones.

[ https://curiosity.com/topics/bird-bones-are-hollow-to-help-them-fly-but-not-in-the-way-you-think-curiosity/ ]

Are you telling me that if a 32,000 pound t-rex running at high speeds fell onto the unforgiving ground its bones would not shatter? It's lungs wouldn't collapse? Its internal organs wouldn't rupture? It wouldn't have fatal internal bleeding? It'd just walk it off?

[Inardesco]

Well, a 32thousand pount animal would be strong enough to well....move that 32thousand pound animal. It's not as if an immensely obese person waying 200kg dies when it falls over.

[Alexraptor]

One has to keep in mind that bones tend to be wrapped in muscle and body fat, all of which contribute to cushioning bones to varying degress and dissipating kinetic energy from an impact. On top of that "how" you fall also matters a lot, and some animals are even hardwired to "fall correctly".

[DMSL]

"Most had feathers"

I am sorry but that is not true. Some therapods had it, but there is no proof that all had them.

[~* BiZZ Keryear *~]

Originally posted by The Reaper:

well it's a "Franchise" [...] i'm a fan of dinosaurs, but feathered ones just dont click with me at all [...]

Originally posted by Alopekis:

[...] is just established within the Jurassic Park franchise. A lot of the dinosaurs are the wrong size and many that don't have feathers should have had them. We're at the point where people kind of just need to accept that. There's too much complaining about the inaccuracies of dinosaurs in Jurassic Park when pretty much everyone already knows.[...] like the velociraptor or zhenyuanlong are the ones that have them feathered

I know that, I was pretty much adult when the first 1993 came out. Back then I watched the documentations (there were a lot that also praised how very accurate the movie was and how that pretty much represent the lasted knowledge about dinos, the documentations used the assets of the movie and where describing dinos in more details).
Only few might know that they went out of their way to make every dinosaur as scientifically accurate as possible ... only that 1993 nobody knew they where more or less feathered.
Even the velociraptor was accurate (at least for 1993), although there is a misunderstanding with the name. The species depicted as velocirator was known as velociraptor (something) for some time and is only distant related to velociraptor mongoliensis.

@Reaper Get used to it, you eat them several times a year.

Anyways that is why I asked for a mod, or more specific if such a mod exists, and not for a "fix", "improvement", or "correction".

Originally posted by TheZeroNeonix:

Realistically, using a toad to fill in the gaps in the genome, if it were even possible to find dinosaur DNA to begin with, would be a nonsensical thing to do. The closest living relatives of the dinosaurs are birds. Why use the DNA of an amphibian instead of a bird? That's just stupid. lol

They use frog DNA in the original, because in 1993 they still where considered reptiles. Somehow related to birds (the Archaeopteryx was known) but they thought as relative distant related.
They even discussed that maybe only the cold blooded survived an later evolved into birds.
Which is nonsense. But back then it was big news that some (or that it were only some they thought) weren't cold blooded ...

They really should have rebooted the franchise (not the game, but the movie) ... they reboot any other ♥♥♥♥♥ all day ... and while rebooting it they could have updated the dinos. Names and appearances.

Originally posted by DMSL:

"Most had feathers"

I am sorry but that is not true. Some therapods had it, but there is no proof that all had them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beKAvZusS-Q
But especially:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOeFRg_1_Yg

[Dank Matter]

It's annoying me how people complain about the size of the raptors. It was said in the movie and even in the game that they messed with the gene's to make it bigger.

[Nohiro]

You need to put in your tiny head that is a JURASSIC PARK GAME, no an accurate dino simulation.

[~* BiZZ Keryear *~]

Originally posted by Nohiro:

You need to put in your tiny head that is a JURASSIC PARK GAME, no an accurate dino simulation.

And you could answer in English not Chinese.
Don't complain. I did read your post as you did mine (means not at all)

[iZob]

JW:E Doesnt support mods. There are no mods. Look at the terms and conditions.

[Doomon15]

First off its Jurassic Parks franchise so thier not gooing to concentrate much on accuracy, second off we dont have mods as of now, its not off thier list though Frontier did say but there has not been any news so far since release.

Lastly not all dinos were feathered, its a common misconception due to the crazy announcment that certain popular key dinos had feathers in thier family now a bunch thought that ment most of them had em, when in reality they all had 4 skin Integuments that organized the species into , 2 have feathers which are Pennaceous (think the format of a bird) and Plumulaceous (think format of an Ostrich), and 2 dont have feathers which are Fillements (think thin hairs) and Scales (pretty self explanitory).

just look at this chart it orginizes it really perfectly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_dinosaur#/media/File:Distribution_of_feathers_in_Dinosauria.jpg

this also means funny enough a number of the dinos are actually not that innacurate in the franchise such as dinos like Spinosaur, Baronyx, Suchomimmus, and prob most herbivores.