Need a List of Loner Dinos

[Lydon Rayleonard]

I am getting kind of annoyed at how some dinos are fine by themselves, and others need 3-4 otherwise they go batcrap crazy. What makes it actually annoying is I can have the geome 100% and I can't look up the info in game about the dino. I HAVE to make one, then click on it and get the info about what its needs are. Its just.....just so stupid. Too many times I had had dinos go crazy cause I had too many dinos in the pin for them, or one of their buddies died and they decided to break down a electricifed concrete fence over it. (which don't get me started on the fence upgrades) So I was curious if anyone had made a list of the dinos based on their social needs.

[Blackwatch]

On of the dino info screens when you click on a dinosaur, there is a section that tells you their social and population level enjoyment. It'll tell you how many dinosaurs of the same species he is okay with, and how many dinosaurs in total he is okay with within the exhibit.

[T-REX-KNIGHT]

Originally posted by Lydon Rayleonard:

I am getting kind of annoyed at how some dinos are fine by themselves, and others need 3-4 otherwise they go batcrap crazy. What makes it actually annoying is I can have the geome 100% and I can't look up the info in game about the dino. I HAVE to make one, then click on it and get the info about what its needs are. Its just.....just so stupid. Too many times I had had dinos go crazy cause I had too many dinos in the pin for them, or one of their buddies died and they decided to break down a electricifed concrete fence over it. (which don't get me started on the fence upgrades) So I was curious if anyone had made a list of the dinos based on their social needs.

T-rex
I-rex
Indoraptor
Allosaurus

[Lydon Rayleonard]

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The dino info screen isn't telling me anything about their needs.

[Rexal]

Originally posted by Lydon Rayleonard:

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The dino info screen isn't telling me anything about their needs.

That's the wrong screen. Click the Dinosaur itself and click the Information symbol, scroll down a bit and it tells you the Social and the Population it prefers. After that, it's up to YOU to monitor it and remember it, Honestly though it isn't hard... Most pack dinosaurs are OK with 4 of it's kind. (Good number, 2 extra incubators and 1 success rate/hatch speed for your hatcheries), Most dinosaurs can stand being in a pen with around 8-15 other dinosaurs. Some exceptions being Edmontosaurus who like having large herds, Ankyolosaurus who prefer to be in packs of 4, Brachiosaurus who don't like crowded pens (I wouldn't either if I was that tall!) and the very small, dumb, featherless chicken herbivors that nobody is interested in who can survive in groups of 18-25.

Nearly all large Carnivors are loners, Metiocanthasaurus (spelling... the sick carni from Island 2!) can have 2 in it's pen, All the rest I've seen prefer 1.... Raptors are pack carnivorrs and NEED a pack to feel comfortable

[software.goddess]

I know exactly what you mean! I need to know this information BEFORE I incubate and release the dino. I don’t want to birth a dino just to find out what kind of pen she needs.

[software.goddess]

So has anyone out there compiled a detailed list of the social, forest/grasslands preferences, and population needs of each of our little girls?

[Sovereigndrake]

Originally posted by software.goddess:

So has anyone out there compiled a detailed list of the social, forest/grasslands preferences, and population needs of each of our little girls?

Yea.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1asbl4934A6JhpCrZvQzU3S8Qu1DTZSguCuLihiNzrFk/edit#gid=0

Edit: I didnt make it: Forum Link[forums.frontier.co.uk]

[Jynn]

yes

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1413537037

[shukun2016]

Originally posted by software.goddess:

So has anyone out there compiled a detailed list of the social, forest/grasslands preferences, and population needs of each of our little girls?

Littje girls needs
cage's size preference(minimum)
1.5to2.0 times larger than the cage which had existed on isla tacano at beggining of management of the island.
Basically this is common to any small carnivorous dinos.

forest/grassland preference(ratio)
Velociraptor: F:G=3:7
Deinonychus: F:G=4:6
Dilophosaurus: F:G=5:5

population needs
Velociraptor:0-20
Deinonychus:0-18
Dilophosaurus:0-22

social needs
Velociraptor 2-6
Deinonychus 3-8
Dilophosaurus 1-12

I am not good at English, so if you confused, it's my fault.

[Krall]

Originally posted by software.goddess:

I know exactly what you mean! I need to know this information BEFORE I incubate and release the dino. I don’t want to birth a dino just to find out what kind of pen she needs.

What's the fun in knowing which dinos play well together?

[AngerIsAnEnergy]

Originally posted by Krall:

Originally posted by software.goddess:

I know exactly what you mean! I need to know this information BEFORE I incubate and release the dino. I don’t want to birth a dino just to find out what kind of pen she needs.

What's the fun in knowing which dinos play well together?

I agree. This game is very easy when you know all the social reqs for these dinos.

In a hypothetical fictional world where a theme park could be built to display dinosaurs generated from gene tech, do you think when the 1st raptor is made it says to the scientists "You know what, I like another dude with me, but I get crowded at 5 or 6". Thanks for the info raptor.

Roleplaying this I would like to see less obvious data like this - not as clear-cut defined anyway - and for us to learn the needs of the dinos through watching and learning their behaviour.

Put a lone raptor in a pen and watch him lose him mind - perhaps he tells you somehow "I'm lonely, give me friends". So, you built a buddy and they are both happy. Great, learned something. Now, keep throwing dinos into the pen until they say "Woah, there dude, we're starting to feel a little cramp here and we might just have to have a civil war between us to balance things out". Great, learned the upper limit.

Slow and painful, but a bit more interesting than build a dino, release him, find out he needs 4 friends and can stomach 20 in a pen straight away, tranq him until you can build more (or risk him going mental). Of course, there is no surprises to be learned in a replay of the game though.

[software.goddess]

Thank you, Soverigndrake, Jynn, and skukun2016, your answers have been very useful.

[Shaun/Shinsy]

man the first raptor i made almost doomed my hole park now every time i make 4 at once :P

[Lydon Rayleonard]

Originally posted by Rexal:

Originally posted by Lydon Rayleonard:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/217039542903898114/460653730338177026/unknown.png

The dino info screen isn't telling me anything about their needs.

That's the wrong screen. Click the Dinosaur itself and click the Information symbol, scroll down a bit and it tells you the Social and the Population it prefers. After that, it's up to YOU to monitor it and remember it.

But that is the whole problem. You have to make 1 first before finding out what its needs are. I have 100% geome with these things. I should have that information beforehand. Its a huge failure of the UI to not have vital information available. It takes time to get buddies for my dinos, especially he ones that require 4+. By the time you get them their buddies, they are already bashing through the paper wall this game calls a fence (any version of it. None of the fences can hold back against a damp towel for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake) and murdering everyone in the streets. Then my helicopter team with nothing but accuarcy upgrades spend 20 hours trying to shoot the dumb thing (another useless upgrade in this game.)

[Aramus418]

Read the book. This was the challenges Wu faced in the late 80s. It would be nice if the data became available in the creation lab after you made a few, but I actually like the mystery behind hatching the first one and having to figure out their needs from there. Some of these guys are especially frustrating, but that's the authentic Jurassic park experience. Hell, at least you know what genus you're getting. Wu's wanted to avoid hatching carnivores, but there was this one amber from Mongolia that produced one of the most intact genomes they ever found...