Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is a good movie - CHANGE MY MIND

[^6Average Bear]

Not really, no one is gonna change my mind on that lol every movie and game will have haters, it's inevitable. But I already can't wait to see where they take the series from here. Also, the Fallen Kingdom DLC is taking forever to drop so I'm on here and bored LOL

[Teratus]

I really enjoyed it overall. (NO SPOILERS)

There were a few minor problems with it.. plot was very good imo and definietly in line with the realistic scenario I feel would exist if Dinosaurs were alive today.

I can't say I cared about the Indoraptor though.. same reasons more or less that I didn't care about the Indorex in the last movie.
I just don't care about fugly fake dinosaurs in a movie about dinosaurs lol
That said humans abusing genetic power and making them in the first place.. totally understandable as a plot point and one as I said I did like.

Overall what I didn't like about the movie was that it got just a tad too silly in parts for my liking.. and that's not new to the series unfortunately.. I think we can all remember that terrible moment when a teenager killed a raptor in Lost world..
Add to that there were a new few characters in the movie which were just utterly unlikable and outright aholes to everyone despite having absolutey no reason to be.

But other than that.. yeah overall good enjoyable movie and i'm definitely looking forward to the next one.

[TechRabbit]

They lost me on the first JW. I gave them a second chance after JP 3 hoping that They had learned but they decided to take the Michael Bay approach, spend $5.00 on the storyline and everything on the visual effects. Unless I start seeing RAVING reviews for a JP movie I won't waste my effort especially when there are other movies out and about that are actually good like Incredibles 2 or maybe Oceans 8?

[Dave]

I only just saw JW a week ago. I'll probably wait for this to come out on Itunes/Amazon.. but it's not that I dont like movies, I have a 85" TV and a home theater... Usually if I go to the movies, it's only IMAX - to see something on a massive screen. I loved the movies when I was younger, but why pay 10-11$ per person when you can often buy a move for 14-30 dollars and the entire family + friends can watch it unlimited times... or you can often rent a move online for $4-$10

[FlyingFish]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TallBear:

I only just saw JW a week ago. I'll probably wait for this to come out on Itunes/Amazon.. but it's not that I dont like movies, I have a 85" TV and a home theater... Usually if I go to the movies, it's only IMAX - to see something on a massive screen. I loved the movies when I was younger, but why pay 10-11$ per person when you can often buy a move for 14-30 dollars and the entire family + friends can watch it unlimited times... or you can often rent a move online for $4-$10

That's exactly what I do. I just got a 4k qled to go with my 7.1 channel surrond sound home theater.
It's $14 per ticket where I live, and that's not counting food. Imax is the only thing worth going to when you can get better than a normal theater at home. So $50 at least for two people.
I'm not wasting my money on a moive that has a 6.7 on IMDB and 53% on Rotten Tomatoes.

[Forever_Lona]

I've thought about this more now.

The soundtrack. God, it was awful.

Why was the young kid being a clone thing even there. I genuinely thought she was Ellie Sattlers daughter for the majority of the movie, and I loved it. Hell, make her Ellie Sattlers clone if you must push the clone thing.

Crushing the legacy of John Hammond as just an entertainer. Surprise, he had a business partner and a secret lab where he's been creating dinosaurs for ages!|

The Brachiosaur at the beach scene was good at the start, and then just became completely on the nose. Pushed it way too far. Backlit silhouette through smoke? Really? Too far.

Blue leaving at the end. It just felt weird and strange

Why did the main (rich) protagonist care about making 100 million in a night? I assume he's worth well more than that, and those prices seemed, well, just too low. Kick it up a notch and make it mean something. 1 billion dollars for the Indoraptor, now there we go.

The *constant* throw backs to the original. Yes, I get it, its like JP. I felt like every scene was trying to poke my nostalgia.

The whole "Indoraptor responds to a laser pointer and sound" thing. Did anyone else notice that the laser pointer was attached to a gun? So what you're saying is you buy the Indo, then do everything that a sniper could do anyway, and wait around for the Indoraptor to do the job a bullet could have done already?

On the plus side, I feel like they made the Indoraptor actually scary for kiddies. The visuals were magnificent.

[Vash the Stampede]

I'm just so sick of hybrid dinosaurs...I couldn't give a crap about all these little creations that came from someone's head that are gonna be soooo much more dangerous that a T-rex or Velociraptor...just make movies about humans and dinosaurs and I'd love these movies so much more.

Also, all the InGen guys there to plunder the island...and yet no one thought to bring along a paleoveterinarian(apparently that's a thing) just to make sure these expesive-ass critters make the journey okay? I mean convenient plot-dependant character is convenient I guess.../sigh

[LemonRaptor]

my headcannon for the laser pointer being attached to a gun and indoraptor being used for combat in general is maybe it was intended for them to train it for fetch and retrieve tasks, more covert actions, so you're looking over a big area full of enemies and there's somthing important you want there and you don't want to have a massive firefight or put yourself in danger, so you point at it (if you can, otherwise use a different method) and it goes and gets it.

or it could be used for the odd assassination of a major figure, they're living creatures so they don't really have anything to link them back to you, they would have 0 information on you, not even what bullet type you used or what angle it came from as you wouldn't be using one.

useless in any combat and likely useless in most assasination roles, it's real merit would be covert actions, faking death, camouflaging (yes i know it couldn't do that but it was a prototype) or just generally sneaking it's way into high risk enviroments to retrieve important things, hunting down high profile individuals by scent (as the raptors did in world) or possibly being trained as untraceable kamikaze's, send it to an important place for the enemy and train it to prioritize attacking wires to cut the power then to kill what it needs to kill in the dark...

just my headcannon at least to try and make it make a little more sense.

[Cmdo.Delta]

It was entertaining... But I'm not hard to entertain lol. I take things as they come. However, i just saw the movie and Jurassic Park 3 is no longer the worse movie of the franchise lol.

This movie was terrible. Its a remake of Jurassic Park 2 except they spend more time outside of the island and more time on the continent. And Jurassic Park 2 is a good movie UNTIL they move dinosaurs outside the island. After that, I usually stop the movie as the whole Trex city walk bores me as hell. Since Jurassic World 2 is just a version of Jurassic Park 2 where they leave island more quickly, i just get bored more quickly.

I'm scared of the kind of ♥♥♥♥ they will bring on screen in 2021. But i guess it'll be hard to be more disappointed.

[^6Average Bear]

After having a full day to think it over, I still stand by saying it was a good movie, NOT GREAT (BY ANY MEANS), but good. The first half of the movie was actually somewhat compelling with actual controveries surrounding whether or not to save the dinosaurs from dying that man created, but I admit about as soon as the story left the Island, and maybe even just before leaving it, it definately started just falling apart. The whole clone thing was weird and I don't know how I feel about that, and I didn't care for the Indoraptor much like how I didn't care for the Indominous Rex in JW, but as a lover of Dinosaurs, this movie gave more screen time to them than probably any other JP movie I can think of, and it even gave a more violent / horrific approach to the Tyrannosaurus and Mosasaur. I will also say that the characters (aside from Pratt and Howard) were all very forgettable, with the possible exception to Lockwood, as he acts as a "tie-in" to John Hammond, which is somewhat cool, but was very underplayed imo. I would probably give the movie a 6.5-7/10 based solely on the fact that the dinosaurs who seemingly rarely get real screen time actually got a large amount, including dinosaurs that were in the novel that never made it to the previous movies, which was a big win to me, as I desperately wanted to see the Carnotaurus and Baryonyx in film, and got my wish granted. Let's just hope this story-type is abandoned for something more realistic and fun with the final film, atleast this one ended in a way that actually makes you realize it has now become exactly what Goldbloom's character predicted, a Jurassic World.

[honey badger]

Also how the hell are they just gonna throw in John Hammonds partner, like for real?

[Cmdo.Delta]

I give it a 4 on 10 lol.

More dinosaur screen time was awesome but they are caged most of time so it makes it ♥♥♥♥ anyway. :(

JW2 is copy-past of JP2.
Same story: taking dinosaurs out of island
Same characters: a badass big game hunter, a mean guy trying to monetize dinosaur, an old man tryimg to save them, a team of good guys trying to stop the bad guys

The only differences are (1) that they spend more time on the island in JP2 (which is, IMO, the good part of the movie, part of movie on continent is terrible in both movies)... And (2) that they try to monetize dinosaurs by selling them instead of opening a small park on the continent.

Everything else is just the same just slightly wraped up differently. It was a bad remake of Jurassic Park: the lost world.

[Sabot88]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dirk:

Dumb motives, main antagonist gets excited over 43 million dollars which seems like an incredibly small amount per dino. Transporting the dinos to a mansion WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG, they spent so little time on the island, Indoraptor died from falling onto a horn yet couldn't be pierced by a bullet at high velocity.

The characters and the general story was so dull. If i were to rate the Jurassic Park Movies in order it'd be

- The Lost World
- Jurassic Park
- Jurassic World
- Fallen Kingdon
- Jurassic Park 3

I think the bullets entered the body but the indo raptor just didnt care I could be wrong the theater i saw it in was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ as all hell, but I 100% agree with your movie rankings!

[TechRabbit]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sabot88:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dirk:

Dumb motives, main antagonist gets excited over 43 million dollars which seems like an incredibly small amount per dino. Transporting the dinos to a mansion WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG, they spent so little time on the island, Indoraptor died from falling onto a horn yet couldn't be pierced by a bullet at high velocity.

The characters and the general story was so dull. If i were to rate the Jurassic Park Movies in order it'd be

- The Lost World
- Jurassic Park
- Jurassic World
- Fallen Kingdon
- Jurassic Park 3

I think the bullets entered the body but the indo raptor just didnt care I could be wrong the theater i saw it in was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ as all hell, but I 100% agree with your movie rankings!

I don't know. I think Jurassic Park sould still and always hold the number 1 spot because It was so amazing tp see something of that calliber in cinema for the first time. It wasn't the best movie of all times but it certainly set the bar for a lot of things. It is the Star wars of the 90's.

[Octanes danger kink]

I can't fathom why people liked the first Jurassic World at all. It completely sucked the magic out of JP-- all the dinosaurs were depicted as ruthless serial killer monsters-- and the characters were flat and robotic. I went into Fallen Kingdom expecting much of the same, but instead was pleasantly surprised. It was nothing amazing, but better than JW1 by MILES. Far more multifaceted characters. A female Jurassic World character actually showed human emotions? IMPOSSIBLE. Chris Pratt can be funny? UNPRECEDENTED. The dinosaurs can bring more to the audience than just terror and fear? That couldn't possibly have been one of the many themes of Jurassic Park. Oh, wait.

The Indoraptor's design was on-point, and I appreciated the parallels to werewolf creature features (That scene with the full moon? And creeping all over a victorian mansion? Good stuff)! The film made great points about how both antagonist and protagonists have used the dinosaurs for their own gain. A lot of interesting ideas explored. I thought the big twist was very refreshing. I personally enjoyed the character additions as well. The franchise sorely needed comic humor - it was getting so incredibly grimdark I was about to give up on it altogether. And the paleo-veterinarian was badass. Blows my mind that people wouldn't want a more colorful movie, but those also tend to be people who actually liked JW1, which was terrible (not sorry), so. All in all, I was really grateful to come out of a Jurassic movie feeling mystified and emotional for the first time in over a decade. Now I'm ready to go hatch and ogle at an Indoraptor :)

[Burmecian Rat]

The trailers for Fallen Kingdom looked so horrible that I just decided to skip the movie and read a plot synopsis online.

Time and money saved that I used to buy and play this game instead.

I think Fallen Kingdom is as big an insult to JP fans as the recent Star Wars movies have been to SW fans. And I LIKED Jurassic World a lot.

My ranking:
Jurassic Park 1
Jurassic World
The Lost World
Fallen Kingdom
Jurassic Park 3 (nothing can be as bad as that)