Indestructible vehicles

[Born to Coom]

Any idea if they're gonna keep this? It seems like such a bad idea to have indestructible vehicles I just don't see the point to it besides lazy coding.

[DamZe]

Originally posted by Ahhtaczy:

No matter how much work people put into a game, consumers will never be satisfied. All I see on this thread is complaining and no applause for this development team and company for working with Universal Studios to bring us this game.

JPOG from 2003 had all these small details in every aspect of its gameplay, and the only thing it lacked is a modern day graphical engine and a budget these guys have today, there is no excuse.

[Sylfeyn]

Originally posted by morph113:

The game won't have mod support.

That never stopped a game from being modded.

[TwoBit]

It's a Jeep license, Jeep wont alow their ingame viechals to be smashed or dammaged. They think people are idiots who beleve what they see in a videogame is real.

[Death]

Originally posted by DamZe:

Originally posted by Ahhtaczy:

No matter how much work people put into a game, consumers will never be satisfied. All I see on this thread is complaining and no applause for this development team and company for working with Universal Studios to bring us this game.

JPOG from 2003 had all these small details in every aspect of its gameplay, and the only thing it lacked is a modern day graphical engine and a budget these guys have today, there is no excuse.

I think too many people misremember JPOG a lot. Yes the safari ride could be attacked by dinos and your balloons could potentially crash in a pen, but that isn't the same thing here. This is more like the heli from JPOG was split into two different vehicles and the heli couldn't be destroyed. I'm not saying I'm against the idea of destructable vehicles, but I don't see it as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.

[Toadofsky]

Originally posted by Dana.:

Why do people always make such a big deal out of non-issues? What difference do damagable vehicles make? Or why are people requesting gore-content when dinosaurs eat visitors. These things are not important and I'd rather want to see the devs put their time, energy and money into topics that really add something to the game, such as the different animals and buildings.

I'm guessing you never played Operation Genesis. Having your vehicles break down inside a dangerous dinosaur enclosure was something else. It added an extra layer of strategy and gameplay and it was pretty damn cool to have to scramble your helicopter to sedate the dinosaurs and rescue your visitors. Especially if you managed to pull off a rescue without losing anyone.

Without that I'm afraid this game is going to just feel like the Xbox one version of Zoo Tycoon, Jurassic World edition. Not exactly the game I was expecting to play, tbph.

[Toadofsky]

Originally posted by TwoBit:

It's a Jeep license, Jeep wont alow their ingame viechals to be smashed or dammaged. They think people are idiots who beleve what they see in a videogame is real.

Remember they had a real world Jeep model you'd get as a reward from a prince in Far Cry 2, remember how absolutely worthless it was and kind of showed how disconnected the guy was from the reality of his country when he gave you a car (granted it looked nice) which worked about as well as the hundreds of other cars you could get, and it would get wrecked and blow up just the same?

I miss that. I miss when people weren't stupid like they are today.

[Drages]

Originally posted by Death:

Originally posted by DamZe:

JPOG from 2003 had all these small details in every aspect of its gameplay, and the only thing it lacked is a modern day graphical engine and a budget these guys have today, there is no excuse.

I think too many people misremember JPOG a lot. Yes the safari ride could be attacked by dinos and your balloons could potentially crash in a pen, but that isn't the same thing here. This is more like the heli from JPOG was split into two different vehicles and the heli couldn't be destroyed. I'm not saying I'm against the idea of destructable vehicles, but I don't see it as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.

This is not exactly about that. JPOG was a cartoonish game with more colorfull art style but got things more "logical and realistic". At a game like JWE, you expect more of that.. a serious game with realistic things. It's about immersion.. You create a world here and it needs to have same rules. If dinos can kill each other, if they can kill humans when they are out, you expect them to be dangerous to your workers too. I would expect that some people tries to fix the part with their life on the line.. so you got a dangerous game with every aspect then take a jeep and go to a broken fence and click.. da da.. fence fixed.. what the fck happed all the "dangerous" feelings?.. it became a mobile game for kids..

This is the problem for us..

[Born to Coom]

I agree with most people on this thread vehicle destruction is more about the challenge and actual fear and depth to the game, it feels really weird to have the jeep walk up right to a dinosaur and it not run away, or walk up right not a RAMPAGING T rex face and the T rex not givin 2 ♥♥♥♥♥ about you, plus you really dont understand the ramifications of this, containing the animals is something very important and thrilling in the game but with this it-ll just come down to take your vehicle/heli and just pew pew pew pew, there will be nothing different whenever you play. Something needs repairing? Poof its done, gyrospheres never get stranded inside a pen why? It would just add something else other than managing your bussiness, you know something that would actually happen inconveniences etc.
Now picture this, you can sedate with your jeep as well, but you're way more safe on the heli, the heli though makes your aim shake a lot more, so its a risk reward type of thing, also your heli wouldn't be able to delve into a deep forested area meaning you'd actually have a chase on your hands and it would add a layer of depth to the whole escaping incident.
Also imagine one of your guests getting stranded in the pen you'd have to drive a jeep to them and escort them out, or a heli, that could mean sedating the dinos or killing them if needed, losing a guests should be a HUGE hit to your money so killing dinos would be a perfectly reasonable solution to get your guests out.
Also repairing imagine this sending out a repair team, and having to go with your own jeep to overlook it, sedate any dinos that get any ideas while the team does their job.
All of this adds a huge layer of depth for little change, without it you pretty much will have a scenic game, where you'll be doing some mild management advancing tech trees and looking at what really are REALLY REALLY pretty dinos, but then there's no challenge other than the major cathastrophes and even those end up not being very deep due to the lack of these mechanics. It would encourage smart park building to allow your jeeps to access feeders easely allow escape routes safe checkpoints etc to keep a potential dino breakout at bay.
So many missed opportunities.

And for people who are saying I'm just complaining and will never be happy seriously if you go to a restaurant and someone orders their food and when it arrives they ask for a bit of salt do you instantly assume they're just saying THIS FOOD IS ♥♥♥♥ I DONT WANT IT.

[Fantajim]

next complaint about why apples dont taste like bananas should, forums sure are a funny place.

[Born to Coom]

Originally posted by Fantajim:

next complaint about why apples dont taste like bananas should, forums sure are a funny place.

More like this apple is good but with a glass of water it would be super good.

[Fantajim]

can't be content with the "good" while being unable to make it yourself but big words of how it should be done. ahh good old humanity.

[Babalonkie]

Originally posted by Oven People:

Any idea if they're gonna keep this? It seems like such a bad idea to have indestructible vehicles I just don't see the point to it besides lazy coding.

A valid point of which i agree with.

The trailer shows a T-Rex destroying a rangers car and JPOG had destructable vehicles, it added to the whole maintenence and caution side of the game. Making them indestructable goes back on game evolution and removes micromanaging units. Since the initial release has already less rides and tourist care (They have already stated there will DLC for this which is nothing but poop as it's not even released, so milk cow underway).

[Death]

Originally posted by Drages:

Originally posted by Death:

I think too many people misremember JPOG a lot. Yes the safari ride could be attacked by dinos and your balloons could potentially crash in a pen, but that isn't the same thing here. This is more like the heli from JPOG was split into two different vehicles and the heli couldn't be destroyed. I'm not saying I'm against the idea of destructable vehicles, but I don't see it as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.

This is not exactly about that. JPOG was a cartoonish game with more colorfull art style but got things more "logical and realistic". At a game like JWE, you expect more of that.. a serious game with realistic things. It's about immersion.. You create a world here and it needs to have same rules. If dinos can kill each other, if they can kill humans when they are out, you expect them to be dangerous to your workers too. I would expect that some people tries to fix the part with their life on the line.. so you got a dangerous game with every aspect then take a jeep and go to a broken fence and click.. da da.. fence fixed.. what the fck happed all the "dangerous" feelings?.. it became a mobile game for kids..

This is the problem for us..

What dangerous feelings exactly? Your heli never just broke down. Your safari ride would, but that's not the same thing. A closer comparison would be those gyrospheres. Do we know if those can break down or be attacked? As far as your emplyees and park vehicles, they were never in any real danger in JPOG. Hell your cleaners wouldn't even run to an emergency shelter when you hit the alarm. They'd just run around the park flailing their arms. I don't think I even saw one get eaten.

I'm just saying it doesn't bother me one way or other, but people definitely remember JPOG wrong. Aside from this there's the fact people remember Site B as a sandbox and it wasn't. You couldn't build a park there. All you could do was place hatcheries and pump out dinos to watch. Real fun there.

[Tarzan]

Originally posted by Oven People:

Any idea if they're gonna keep this? It seems like such a bad idea to have indestructible vehicles I just don't see the point to it besides lazy coding.

The devs pretty much lied right to our face via the trailer, lets be honest here... no dinosaurs attacking jeeps, no attacking staff like come on now.

[Ariton]

Im also incredibly disappointed that jeeps are indestructible :(