They Are Billions

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luvckay Sep 15, 2019 @ 11:11am
Campaign is too difficult
Many colonies win conditions are too difficult. Lowland for example asks for 1200 colonist. However, the map itself was cropped, which limited how much you can build. Also, while it has plenty of resources, there were not enough spaces to build. You have to split your food between armies and colonists, while defending swarms.

Does anyone have some good strategies?
This was only one example. The Giant map has limited resources, which makes it even harder to complete.
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grapplehoeker Sep 15, 2019 @ 12:32pm 
Figure it out. It can be done. It is difficult, but not too difficult and I wouldn't have it any other way.
There would be little reason to play if it was too easy ;)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1800906020
Qiox Sep 15, 2019 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by grapplehoeker:
Figure it out. It can be done. It is difficult, but not too difficult and I wouldn't have it any other way.
There would be little reason to play if it was too easy ;)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1800906020

Nice little village you have there :p

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1800610830
Andrewbh2003 Sep 17, 2019 @ 3:16am 
i mean yeah lowlands is the hardest map in the campaign but its not cause of space necessarily once you clear the entire map there is enough room assuming you have cotages
Originally posted by andrewbh2003:
i mean yeah lowlands is the hardest map in the campaign but its not cause of space necessarily once you clear the entire map there is enough room assuming you have cotages

Lowlands is absolute cancer on apoc. Just as God intended.
Commisar Jon Fuklaw Sep 22, 2019 @ 11:02pm 
Originally posted by ProxyDragoon:
Originally posted by Commisar Jon Fuklaw:

Lowlands is absolute cancer on apoc. Just as God intended.
Yep. I play it on brutal but lowlands and narrow pass are easily one of the most difficult. The last one is really difficult and i promised my self that i would check it out when mutants get balanced, hopefully.

Narrow pass isn't all that bad. I mean, yeah, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥ if the waves don't come from the side you are clearing, which means the difficulty is down to luck.

Maps like El Dorado and Forbidden Forest are both far worse. And Lowlands deserves a repeated mention because ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Lowlands.
Last edited by Commisar Jon Fuklaw; Sep 22, 2019 @ 11:02pm
amordron Sep 22, 2019 @ 11:51pm 
Originally posted by Commisar Jon Fuklaw:
Originally posted by ProxyDragoon:
Yep. I play it on brutal but lowlands and narrow pass are easily one of the most difficult. The last one is really difficult and i promised my self that i would check it out when mutants get balanced, hopefully.

Narrow pass isn't all that bad. I mean, yeah, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥ if the waves don't come from the side you are clearing, which means the difficulty is down to luck.

Maps like El Dorado and Forbidden Forest are both far worse. And Lowlands deserves a repeated mention because ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Lowlands.

Forbidden forest all comes down to mutant agro on the first few days and is such a late map can be avoided with ease while you go there with so much tech makes it a easy map. Only hard part about it is the last wave and that’s easy just mass 150-300 soilders per side and your fine. Any apoc player should easy have the economy to get that. El dorado is the same thing a easy map that you just need to clear to the gold mine and your fine. Map can be done on apoc with just wasps via trains if you want to take you time or soilder spam without any thought it’s one of the easiest maps on apoc where you are more than used to dealing with those numbers and apoc players have no issue having a good economy.

Narrow pass on the other hand like lowlands are the two hardest. This is when done once unlocked they are easy if you avoid till after North pass is done. It’s not even just rng to get the wave on the side your clearing the fact the wave comes on day 12 is quite big the entire map comes down to defending that wave and it is a challenge.

This is all considering apoc level. Obv if your playing easy narrow pass is a joke as the wave dosent come till day 20 and is only a few mobs so it’s main challenge is cut out vs forest or el that keeps there main points on lower diffs there is just less mobs. That’s a scaling thing nothing more. Which is why hardest is compaired on the hardest diff for uniformity.

Last map is also difficult to a point. Mainly if you rush it as the early mutants plus lag from the extra mobs on apoc make it a pain to get started once started and stable it’s not that bad.
Last edited by amordron; Sep 22, 2019 @ 11:56pm
Hattutsil Sep 23, 2019 @ 10:33am 
I give up. Im in the last mission in difficulty challenging and failed around 10 times. I do make the whole campaing in that difficulty failed in som emissoin but manage to reach the last one. Im not that fast. Failed at harpies always. Too fast and too many. And they come for random places, so you need to guess. wich place they come. One times form west, for north or for east. Cant defend my base at time even with a lot of soldiers. and snipers and executors.

No. Since there is no way to save the mission if you fail you need to redo all wich is very frustrating. Spending too much time in one stuff for fail and redo since scratcht is not fun.

Peace
grapplehoeker Sep 23, 2019 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by Hattutsil:
I give up. Im in the last mission in difficulty challenging and failed around 10 times. I do make the whole campaing in that difficulty failed in som emissoin but manage to reach the last one. Im not that fast. Failed at harpies always. Too fast and too many. And they come for random places, so you need to guess. wich place they come. One times form west, for north or for east. Cant defend my base at time even with a lot of soldiers. and snipers and executors.

No. Since there is no way to save the mission if you fail you need to redo all wich is very frustrating. Spending too much time in one stuff for fail and redo since scratcht is not fun.

Peace
..... Titans, 'nuff said ;)
amordron Sep 23, 2019 @ 3:17pm 
Originally posted by Hattutsil:
I give up. Im in the last mission in difficulty challenging and failed around 10 times. I do make the whole campaing in that difficulty failed in som emissoin but manage to reach the last one. Im not that fast. Failed at harpies always. Too fast and too many. And they come for random places, so you need to guess. wich place they come. One times form west, for north or for east. Cant defend my base at time even with a lot of soldiers. and snipers and executors.

No. Since there is no way to save the mission if you fail you need to redo all wich is very frustrating. Spending too much time in one stuff for fail and redo since scratcht is not fun.

Peace

You don’t need to defend all sides if you make your base right one choke covers half the map north and west leaving only there that you can heavily defend plus two sides. The other two sides you can easy move back and forth two when you get the alert and only two sides can be defended at the same time quite easy.

Plus you can stop harpys from jumping walls with wasps.
herrerik Sep 24, 2019 @ 12:02am 
Originally posted by Hattutsil:
Since there is no way to save the mission if you fail you need to redo all wich is very frustrating. Spending too much time in one stuff for fail and redo since scratcht is not fun.
Peace

You can just backup the savegame folder and redo from that wave. I would have given up on this game a long time ago unless i used save scumming. ESPECIALLY on the campaign missions since they are always the same, redoing them is just a chore.
Last edited by herrerik; Sep 24, 2019 @ 12:02am
sunnydance Sep 24, 2019 @ 2:17am 
Originally posted by Hattutsil:
I give up. Im in the last mission in difficulty challenging and failed around 10 times. I do make the whole campaing in that difficulty failed in som emissoin but manage to reach the last one. Im not that fast. Failed at harpies always. Too fast and too many. And they come for random places, so you need to guess. wich place they come. One times form west, for north or for east. Cant defend my base at time even with a lot of soldiers. and snipers and executors.

No. Since there is no way to save the mission if you fail you need to redo all wich is very frustrating. Spending too much time in one stuff for fail and redo since scratcht is not fun.

Peace
10 times? .... I did Lowlands 24 times, Cape storm 18 times, Narrow pass 25 times. Stop complaining and come back here when you really tried a level :)
Haha, anyway, don't give up. After each try, sit back for a moment and figure out what you could have done better. Work on that the next try. Etc etc. In the end you will beat it which will be the moment of pure satisfaction.

Good luck
Sunny
Synka Sep 24, 2019 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by Hattutsil:
I give up. Im in the last mission in difficulty challenging and failed around 10 times. I do make the whole campaing in that difficulty failed in som emissoin but manage to reach the last one. Im not that fast. Failed at harpies always. Too fast and too many. And they come for random places, so you need to guess. wich place they come. One times form west, for north or for east. Cant defend my base at time even with a lot of soldiers. and snipers and executors.

No. Since there is no way to save the mission if you fail you need to redo all wich is very frustrating. Spending too much time in one stuff for fail and redo since scratcht is not fun.

Peace
the last mission doesnt seem as hard as some others way earlier on, just get masses of soldiers and a few titans, build walls properly etc.
Last edited by Synka; Sep 24, 2019 @ 8:32am
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Date Posted: Sep 15, 2019 @ 11:11am
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