Apocalypse mode thread

[MagnusGrey]

Started a new campain with the new 800% difficulty and just beat the intro mission on my first try (2 layers of walls and 40 rangers did it).

Just thought I would make a place where people can discuss their strategies for this mode on various maps.

[Arashi]

If anyone can get through Narrow Pass I'd like to know how.
It doesn't seem possible.

[HeathenSW]

Well, seems like you SHOULD NOT go out with less than ~10 soldiers now. Otherwise the noise will be too much and you will drown. In 500% it was quite ok to do so.

That was on meadow map, initial and crossroads were peice of cake.

[amordron]

Originally posted by the Arashi:

If anyone can get through Narrow Pass I'd like to know how.
It doesn't seem possible.

Narrow pass even on nightmare was already harder than at least half the 3 star missions it’s a prime example of a mission you return to. Getting eg train supply to iron helps a ton.

[Node]

For narrow pass, I used spike traps on 500% to wipe the first wave. Is that strategy still viable?

[amordron]

Originally posted by stealth_villain:

For narrow pass, I used spike traps on 500% to wipe the first wave. Is that strategy still viable?

It should be the question being do you want to waste tech on them when you can directly tech to iron traps later by waiting to do that mission.

[MagnusGrey]

Managed to beat crossroads with about 65 rangers (+20% damage upgrade).

[snuggleform]

I'm going to issue a challenge no one will accept - do apoc without shock towers or soldiers.

[kirill-busidow]

What is better: soldiers or snipers for apocalypse mode?

[HappyFir3]

Originally posted by kirill-busidow:

What is better: soldiers or snipers for apocalypse mode?

Snipers are still better vs VoDs and spitters. I imagine the spitter mission is far far harder without them. However, before difficulty 4 when the specials start coming in force soldiers are probably better.

[snuggleform]

With the bug fix, augmented reality vet sniper can one shot a harpy and also venom...that should be something.

[Commisar Jon Fuklaw]

Originally posted by wsc150:

With the bug fix, augmented reality vet sniper can one shot a harpy and also venom...that should be something.

Finally that got fixed. Gonna start an apoc game once I get the time to finish current campaign.

[snuggleform]

Sorry random question; I know traps generally suck/not worth getting, but do you guys think they might be ok in that one mission with the mass venoms? Venoms typically don't have the sheer numbers as zombies do so the traps wouldn't run out as fast as they normally would, and also the 50% slow might be amazing to let your troops get in more free shots before they get to fire. Any thoughts/experiences?

[HappyFir3]

Originally posted by wsc150:

Sorry random question; I know traps generally suck/not worth getting, but do you guys think they might be ok in that one mission with the mass venoms? Venoms typically don't have the sheer numbers as zombies do so the traps wouldn't run out as fast as they normally would, and also the 50% slow might be amazing to let your troops get in more free shots before they get to fire. Any thoughts/experiences?

Wasps + snipers still seems far far better, since the snipers aggro the venoms and the venoms will ignore the wasps if they are aggroed, walking to their doom (wasps take down spitters surprisingly fast). Also wasps/snipers are tech you'll probably want anyway since they're universally useful.

If you were doing a specific self-inflicted challenge (like no snipers or something) then maybe traps aren't too bad. The nightmare wave for the spitters was rather dissapointing, but I expect the apocalypse one to be far scarier.

[F0URSHEEP]

Originally posted by the Arashi:

If anyone can get through Narrow Pass I'd like to know how.
It doesn't seem possible.

You'd better complete other 2 star mission first then use research points you get from them to research something which help you.

I just passed it in a single try using only soldier and shocking tower, no spike trap, no stone wall, no extra units at the start.

I invest in logistic tech line to get iron from the train, then I just use my 4 ranger to create space little by little until I get enough stone to build soldier center and start making soldier to push out in every direction, slowly but strongly and steadily.

I have 12 veteran soldier and 4 regular soldier behind two stack of wood wall to defend against the first wave because I don't have enough economy to get shocking tower yet at that point, I sacrifice two ranger as I kite the first wave multiple time so my defend line don't get overwhelmed.

After I survive the first wave it's just a piece of cake since I have plenty of time to prepare my economy and resouces.

[snuggleform]

You failed my challenge already, I said no shocks or soldiers!! rip