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berryStraw Jun 21, 2019 @ 7:17am
How are you suppose to defend against hordes coming from the railroads....
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1776648972

So first things first, It doesn't look good at all, it looks like I've completely abandoned that side and that is what happened. the first horde came from the east but from the middle where you can build your defences up properly, and that's what I did, I put up defences on every side except for that one thinking oh well it wouldn't make sense spawning a horde right on top of a railroad leading straight to my base which I can defend in no way except to build walls around it... even with that they have straight path towards the centre of my base.

Now for me... I can restart the lost 30-60 mins of gameplay knowing I will prepare for that horde. What about other people who play on higher difficulties, there is no way anyone could defend that because they are just gonna walk straight to the centre if they are on the extreme high difficulties.

Update: okay so you can build gates on railroads thanks for that, wasn't calling this game bad or anything I love this game... no need to be rude, calling people dumb for seeing that u cant build stuff around railroad and assuming u cant build anything including gates. If u did found it yourself well then congrats u can now tell everyone that you are smarter than some random guy on the internet.

Also yes I do know how to kite and the strategies I did play before the campaign on higher difficulties (hope others find it usefull), I had defences up on every side apart from that as it was the only side with railroad that was isolated and since i never had swarms coming in from the railroads up to this point I didn't know what to expect hence me having absolutely nothing on that side.


Anyways case closed thanks to the guy telling me about gates really helpful info hope it helps others aswell ^^.
Last edited by berryStraw; Jun 22, 2019 @ 7:30am
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Kurtino Jun 21, 2019 @ 7:21am 
So, the game never tells you this, but you can actually build a gate on the railroads.

Annoying, I know, had to find out from a post on the forums myself, but you can.

P.S. That map's final horde says it's coming from the East, but it spawns a equally large sized horde both East and West. I gave up playing after that, so don't let it trick you like it did me.
ec928 Jun 21, 2019 @ 7:49am 
If you leave a huge hole in your walls, what do you expect is going to happen? Zombies will go right through the hole. Agree with the above poster - wall off your railways....
amordron Jun 21, 2019 @ 7:51am 
just place a luci in that hole it’s what there made for. One luci can handle that entire end swarm two of on nightmare. One shock dose the same also.
Freelapdance Jun 21, 2019 @ 8:08am 

Originally posted by Kurtino:
So, the game never tells you this, but you can actually build a gate on the railroads.

This. You can make gates on the straight parts of the railroad.

Havent exactly done the math but i highly doubt you will have lucis or shock towers available for this map considering how early in the campaign it is.
One Man Army Jun 21, 2019 @ 8:16am 
If you only have access to soldiers, make sure to heavily fortify left side with more walls as to keep the zombie swarm busy and focus defending on the right.

Keep your soldiers in a ball and use one ranger or soldier to kite the big blob of zombies in circles, letting part of it aggro your soldiers each time.

Once you are done you can focus to the left side and repeat as well.

On nightmare mode you will need to kite both sides at the same time. Pause is your friend.
Evilsod Jun 21, 2019 @ 8:16am 
Yeah, I'm not gonna fault the game for this, sorry.
The game really shouldn't have to explain to you that you can build Gates across a railway track.

You start the game with literally two defence types. A 1x1 Wall and a 1x3 Gate and coincidentally, you can't build 1 tile either side of the railway, so perhaps you'd think trying out a gate would be sensible?
MaGicBush Jun 21, 2019 @ 8:31am 
Yea I mean how would a wall work with trains going by? Obviously try the gate that opens and closes..
kirill-busidow Jun 21, 2019 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by Freelapdance:
Originally posted by Kurtino:
So, the game never tells you this, but you can actually build a gate on the railroads.

This. You can make gates on the straight parts of the railroad.

Havent exactly done the math but i highly doubt you will have lucis or shock towers available for this map considering how early in the campaign it is.

You can have shock towers for this mission.
kirill-busidow Jun 21, 2019 @ 8:32am 
Also if you time it right, you can use train to crash some zombies (if you keep them on rail).
. Jun 21, 2019 @ 8:44am 
I managed to defend with 5 ballista on each side
DubEmSensi Jun 21, 2019 @ 9:03am 
Originally posted by Kurtino:
So, the game never tells you this, but you can actually build a gate on the railroads.

*Mind blown* Will be helpful in future missions. Thanks for the tip! Did this mission with some ballistas. I thought the swarm would never come on an entrance of the map where the train also comes in. Luckily for me, i'm a 'better safe than sorry'-kinda guy when it comes to this game. :lunar2019piginablanket:
Kurtino Jun 21, 2019 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by Evilsod:
Yeah, I'm not gonna fault the game for this, sorry.
The game really shouldn't have to explain to you that you can build Gates across a railway track.

You start the game with literally two defence types. A 1x1 Wall and a 1x3 Gate and coincidentally, you can't build 1 tile either side of the railway, so perhaps you'd think trying out a gate would be sensible?
I completely disagree.

Seeing as any sort of building near the railroads counted as inaccessible terrain, I would have never have thought that a gate could be built over it. I assumed it was blocked terrain. Nothing telegraphed that it was accessible either.

Additionally the first level has the bottom side of the railroad that has no enemies spawn from its direction apart from initial wanderers, and the final horde that attacks on that map comes from the top left, as opposed to the railroads, with only a few stragglers coming from the tracks. The game itself does nothing to highlight that railroads are a problem until this level, which is quite a few levels into the game.
amordron Jun 21, 2019 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by Freelapdance:
Originally posted by Kurtino:
So, the game never tells you this, but you can actually build a gate on the railroads.

This. You can make gates on the straight parts of the railroad.

Havent exactly done the math but i highly doubt you will have lucis or shock towers available for this map considering how early in the campaign it is.

I have both luci and shock tower on that mission helps a ton/
MaGicBush Jun 21, 2019 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by Kurtino:
Originally posted by Evilsod:
Yeah, I'm not gonna fault the game for this, sorry.
The game really shouldn't have to explain to you that you can build Gates across a railway track.

You start the game with literally two defence types. A 1x1 Wall and a 1x3 Gate and coincidentally, you can't build 1 tile either side of the railway, so perhaps you'd think trying out a gate would be sensible?
I completely disagree.

Seeing as any sort of building near the railroads counted as inaccessible terrain, I would have never have thought that a gate could be built over it. I assumed it was blocked terrain. Nothing telegraphed that it was accessible either.

Common sense eludes you. The first thing I thought of when starting the campaign was "how do I block these tracks" and proceeded to try a gate and not a wall since trains use railroads generally..

What an odd thing for people to complain about lmao. People amaze me every day with their ignorance.
Last edited by MaGicBush; Jun 21, 2019 @ 4:57pm
amordron Jun 21, 2019 @ 4:56pm 
Originally posted by MaGicBush:
Originally posted by Kurtino:
I completely disagree.

Seeing as any sort of building near the railroads counted as inaccessible terrain, I would have never have thought that a gate could be built over it. I assumed it was blocked terrain. Nothing telegraphed that it was accessible either.

Common sense eludes you. The first thing I thought of when starting the campaign was "how do I block these tracks" and proceeded to try a gate and not a wall since trains use railroads generally..

Well that and the whole thing of the trailer of the campaign itself shows the gates on the railroad.
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