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MikeOxbig Jul 7, 2019 @ 1:36pm
This or Frostpunk?
Im debating on buying one of them. Any suggestions?
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Completely different games.

Much, much greater replayability in TAB. We're talking an order of magnitude greater at the least.

I'd say TAB, with all its quirks.
amordron Jul 7, 2019 @ 1:50pm 
As someone who has over 100 hours in both:

Frost punk is great I would say for the first play by its overall a better game. That being said it takes about 30 hours to playby frsotpunk once (not doing everything) and start needing to repeat stuff for achivs and higher diffs.

They are billions takes closer to 60-70 hours to play by once but overall the campaign is far less polished and has many more flaws than frostpunk. So when talking about a first play experience I would rate frostpunk higher.


That being said once you have done the first playby and start wanting to now do higher diffs and achivments frostpunk you finish in about 60-80 hours than its over your done little replayabilty and the game gets stale fast.

They are billions has survival mode after you finsh camapign on the highest diffs witch will likly take you 2 runs one on a lower diff to see whats comming on on the highest about 50 hours per so 100 hours of content before touching survival that has vastly more replayabilty and its survival mode is quite polished.

They are billion also has custom maps to further add more content making the game vary worth it.

So for replayabilty and content TAB wins hands down.



As such get both but start with TAB if your not going to have money for the other "soonish" as you will get more content and stuff to do to keep you tied up even if the camapaign is worse. The survival mode and custom is vastly better than frsotpunks joke of endless mode and no custom mods/player created content. If you got the money for both or will soonish get frostpunk first its overall a better more polished city builder (assuming your looking for a city builder not a combat game as it has no combat). But frostpunk will run out of content sooner so it is less value for your buck to me.

Both are really good games and are a good compairision to each other with each there own draws.
snuggleform Jul 7, 2019 @ 1:54pm 
They're both very addicting and worth the investment.

I will say however that what Sheepify is true; once you "solve" frostpunk's few scenarios it's over pretty quick, even "endless" mode gets boring pretty fast. If you had to pick one now I'd go with TAB; frostpunk is supposed to get more dlcs later this year so you might want to wait until that happens to make it more replayable.

But again, frostpunk is very good and you'll easily get 40-80 hours out of it if you try to solve it yourself on "extreme" mode (frostpunk's highest difficulty).
Evilgenius Jul 7, 2019 @ 1:56pm 
2 completely different games, but i think TaB gives alot more replay value. But TaB is far more difficult then Frostpunk, so you will fail alot. It is also forced ironman, which is great if you like that.

Gameplay is very different, TaB is a more classic RTS with a pauze function. And Frostpunk is a citybuilder with survival mechanics.

I own both, but only played 1 campaign of Frostpunk, it was fun. TaB on the other hand got me hooked for hours with no end in sight. I'm an Ironman junky, so a game that is specifically made with ironman mode as default is my cup of tea.
amordron Jul 7, 2019 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by wsc150:
They're both very addicting and worth the investment.

I will say however that what Sheepify is true; once you "solve" frostpunk's few scenarios it's over pretty quick, even "endless" mode gets boring pretty fast. If you had to pick one now I'd go with TAB; frostpunk is supposed to get more dlcs later this year so you might want to wait until that happens to make it more replayable.

But again, frostpunk is very good and you'll easily get 40-80 hours out of it if you try to solve it yourself on "extreme" mode (frostpunk's highest difficulty).

Survivor is frostpunk highest diff its extreme with ironman added and no pauses a step above extreme.

Frostpunks coming dllcs witch as per there investor call 1 of the 2 at least will be the start of paid dlc not baseline content. The other also sounds to be given they talked about a season pass so unlikely to only be one paid dlc if a season pass is comming.

As such at the point where talking paid dlc you need to spend more to get that extra content witch likely will just get you TAB + frostpunk for the same price witch will likely be the better investment as 1 new map the size of the main map a new home witch is what they described it as in the investor call is rather limited on the amount of content about 6 hours more and they will prob charge 10 bunks or so far it.
MikeOxbig Jul 7, 2019 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by evilgenius:
2 completely different games, but i think TaB gives alot more replay value. But TaB is far more difficult then Frostpunk, so you will fail alot. It is also forced ironman, which is great if you like that.

Gameplay is very different, TaB is a more classic RTS with a pauze function. And Frostpunk is a citybuilder with survival mechanics.

I own both, but only played 1 campaign of Frostpunk, it was fun. TaB on the other hand got me hooked for hours with no end in sight. I'm an Ironman junky, so a game that is specifically made with ironman mode as default is my cup of tea.
Excuse my ignorance but what do you mean by Forced Iron man?
Wormeur Jul 7, 2019 @ 2:29pm 
Iron man meaning you can't save your progress midgame. If you lose, you have to start over. Think roguelike. You can save and quit if you want to take a break tho
snuggleform Jul 7, 2019 @ 2:29pm 
Forced ironman is what TAB has - that is, you can't save in the middle of a mission, and there is no in game option to allow this (yes there are cheats/mods).

With Frostpunk you can always save your progress at any time, and also progress is saved automatically for you every midnight. There is a "survivor" mode in frostpunk where you can't pause anymore (or do regular saves either, I believe? I can't remember tbh), but you still get autosaves even then.
Evilgenius Jul 7, 2019 @ 2:29pm 
The game is designed with ironman as default. So you cannot savescum when playing a mission. If something goes wrong you will have to live with losing that mission and start over. Not everyone can handle that. It makes the game feel alot more meaningful and your decisions matter, especially when taking technology's. But it also means that if (when) you fail you wasted an hour or 2 (I dont like calling it wasted time, you can learn from your mistakes.)
MikeOxbig Jul 7, 2019 @ 2:35pm 
Ahh gotcha... Ok cool well thanks for the info everyone. I just bought TAB. Maybe ill grab frostpunk sometime later. :5MRGlasses:
snuggleform Jul 7, 2019 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by MikeOxbig:
Ahh gotcha... Ok cool well thanks for the info everyone. I just bought TAB. Maybe ill grab frostpunk sometime later. :5MRGlasses:

Frostpunk is excellent, I definitely recommend getting it later maybe after the new year. Wait until they release some more dlc. It's super addicting and generally more polished (though not bugless) than TAB.

(btw it's probably been mentiond before but frostpunk has no combat system so think about if that turns you off. It's more focused on the manaagement/survival aspect and has zero combat).
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Demonic Jul 7, 2019 @ 2:54pm 
Personally I like Frostpunk more. It is a polished well made game with a great atmosphere, good visuals and a nice sound design.

It tells you a story as you play. In this aspect it csn be compared to a movie in which you are one of the leading actors.

I thoroughly enjoyed my first playthrough of the first four scenarios. (Didn't play later additions yet)

Frostpunk might not boast great replayability but it can deliver a unique experience and it doesn't waste as much time as TAB.

*****

TAB is a decent game. It has the visuals and atmosphere done right but I find sound design lacking. Campaign has little to offer in terms of story. But there are Custom Maps that can cover this aspect.

It is a game to be bought for the gameplay. Here you can slaughter thousands of zombies. Protect your colony from the swarm and be victorious.
But be warned. This game is a total time sink if you are a pause junkie. This game also has a great replayability.

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All in all it all boils down to your preference in games. Frostpunk and TAB are very different in gameplay aspect.
Demonic Jul 7, 2019 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by MikeOxbig:
Ahh gotcha... Ok cool well thanks for the info everyone. I just bought TAB. Maybe ill grab frostpunk sometime later. :5MRGlasses:
I got late to the party. :steammocking:

GL HF :cozybethesda:
snuggleform Jul 7, 2019 @ 2:58pm 
Another obvious thing not sure if mentioned yet - as of yet Frostpunk has no mod support. Personally that's not a turnoff for me as the core gameplay is good enough to buy it for, but it's something to keep in mind for some people.
Originally posted by MikeOxbig:
Ahh gotcha... Ok cool well thanks for the info everyone. I just bought TAB. Maybe ill grab frostpunk sometime later. :5MRGlasses:
Remember, losing is part of learning process ;)
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