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brendan 29 Nov 15, 2017 @ 4:02pm
WARNING DO NOT BUY WITH INTEL HD4000
do not follow any steps into playing this game if you have this. i finished following them and it crashed my computer. it unistalled my intel HD4000 and i can not get it back without errors. now my computer is stuck this way till i can get to a computer store.... was on the phone with microsoft and there is nothing i can do about it.... looked like a fun game but now i am finda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ :/
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Klokinator Nov 15, 2017 @ 7:47pm 
I mean, it could be the game... or something else entirely.
sausages Nov 15, 2017 @ 9:04pm 
Interesting... the game's min. req. said HD4000... but appreciate your warning.

Since we are in Beta, we shall see if the Dev can fix this.
Cortexion Nov 15, 2017 @ 10:23pm 
what exactly do you mean by "follow any steps into playing this game"

what steps did you follow?
Uncertain Nov 16, 2017 @ 12:16am 
Deleted your graphics card did it? Strange, Microsoft usually lets you download a new one right away after such a common issue. Maybe you should write them a letter. And be sure to attach a photograph of the game so they know what the problem is.
Last edited by Uncertain; Nov 16, 2017 @ 12:17am
discombobulated1 Nov 16, 2017 @ 12:57am 
if you post your full system specs someone maybe able to help
Wookie Nov 16, 2017 @ 3:16am 
The game uninstalled your graphics driver? Wut? I find that alittle hard to believe. Posting specs and stuff would be more helpful. As to regards to reinstalling gfx drivers, sometimes its a good idea to completely remove every trace of the old drivers before installing fresh ones. Sometimes old bits of data get left over and mess up things on the system. Happened alot back in the day on old AMD cards for me. Dunno if software like 'Driversweeper' or 'Display Driver Uninstaller' works with intel gfx drivers though but look it up on Guru3D
Last edited by Wookie; Nov 16, 2017 @ 3:17am
shachar2like Nov 16, 2017 @ 3:27am 
I understand that the game caused your computer to crash (it's a beta game so it can happen).
It can happen when windows crashes that it won't boot anymore because it was in the middle of something important.

Thanks for the warning but Those are rare events but can happen.
Do you have the stop error message (blue screen with text in it)?
I've had similar issues with many games when I had an old laptop which used Intel HD graphics 4400. Those GPU's are good for nothing, all they ever do is crash the computer with BSOD's and / or other types of freezes and such
shachar2like Nov 16, 2017 @ 4:45am 
it usually depends on the drivers.
as time and years go on the manufacturer considers the product "dead" and "obsolete" so therefor has stopped updating the drivers.

as new OS and patches and updates comes out to the OS the drivers sometimes become "unstable" (meaning they aren't programmed well and cause instability in the operating system)

This is really hard to diagnose and almost impossible.
People should start considering it when upgrading their computer:
Yes you can install more ram and install windows 10 on your old pc
Yes it will run
But for technical people: do take into account that the drivers are old, not updated and sometimes weren't meant or tested with this new OS.
This could lead to instability as I said.

I will only end with: there are new graphic cards in various price range, but do try to make sure that you buy one from the latest family that came out and not a card that came out 3 years ago and the store wants to get rid of.


This is too technical for most people but perhaps some gamers will understand.
Originally posted by shachar2like:
it usually depends on the drivers.
as time and years go on the manufacturer considers the product "dead" and "obsolete" so therefor has stopped updating the drivers.

as new OS and patches and updates comes out to the OS the drivers sometimes become "unstable" (meaning they aren't programmed well and cause instability in the operating system)

This is really hard to diagnose and almost impossible.
People should start considering it when upgrading their computer:
Yes you can install more ram and install windows 10 on your old pc
Yes it will run
But for technical people: do take into account that the drivers are old, not updated and sometimes weren't meant or tested with this new OS.
This could lead to instability as I said.

I will only end with: there are new graphic cards in various price range, but do try to make sure that you buy one from the latest family that came out and not a card that came out 3 years ago and the store wants to get rid of.


This is too technical for most people but perhaps some gamers will understand.
And for the love of all that is not yet infected, avoid Intel HD graphics in the future.
Klokinator Nov 16, 2017 @ 4:47am 
^PCMR guy gets it.

I'm running:

i7 6700k
32GB's DDR4 3000mhz RAM
EVGA GTX 1080
EVGA 1000w PSU
And around 8TB's of HDD and SSD space.

Plus a triple monitor setup, all three are 144hz ;)
Last edited by Klokinator; Nov 16, 2017 @ 4:48am
shachar2like Nov 16, 2017 @ 5:05am 
I just bought a 55" 4k smart TV for $567 11 months ago.
And on the same topic, a windowed 4k screen doesn't align well...
76561198032311795 Nov 16, 2017 @ 7:11pm 
I was hoping this would be a game I could play on my laptop, which has an Intel hd graphics 4000. The beta is unplayable due to graphic issues. All text in menus and on the title screen is partially visible (the top half is next to invisible, while the bottom is readable). Gameplay is impossible, the entire map is dark, and you can barely make out the location of the command center and units cannot be detected. Hopefully this is something that will be resolved before the final version is launched, I was really looking forward to this game.
Irregular Nov 17, 2017 @ 3:19am 
Video games aren't really made to be played on toasters.
Hadlock Jan 19, 2018 @ 8:13pm 
Since this is the first (and only relevant) result on google when you search for "They Are Billions hd 4000" I have to say that this works just fine on my 2012-era i5 with intel HD4000 (8gb ram) no slowdowns on normal graphics settings. You can safely ignore the title of this thread if you're buying this in 2018. It runs great.
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