The directional blocking interferes with body part targeting

[Dirty Wizard]

If I successfully block an attack the body part targetting system appears to switch targets to whichever direction I was pressing. I'm using a controller but this is also a problem with keyboard and mouse, even if you don't touch the scroll wheel. It's extremely annoying to get a successful block and then see your character attacking a body part you didn't want to target.

Am I doing something wrong or is this some kind of control bug? The directional blocking system is already annoying but this makes it unbearable and makes me not want to play the game. Can anyone give any insight?

[76561198885321779]

Hey Dirty Wizard!

Are you certain you're holding the parry button when you perform the directional parry? If you don't hold it in, you will switch body part instead of parrying in that direction.

[Infected Ronin]

Originally posted by Jellyfoosh:

Hey Dirty Wizard!

Are you certain you're holding the parry button when you perform the directional parry? If you don't hold it in, you will switch body part instead of parrying in that direction.

So we must hold a button then press a directional button indicated by the mod appearing on the screen?

[Dirty Wizard]

Originally posted by Jellyfoosh:

Hey Dirty Wizard!

Are you certain you're holding the parry button when you perform the directional parry? If you don't hold it in, you will switch body part instead of parrying in that direction.

Pretty certain, it seems to happen after a successful parry, perhaps after the parry has timed out or something? I think maybe it would be better to have some other button to switch body part targets rather than the same one that handles parrying

[Dirty Wizard]

Ok I know what I'm doing wrong, instead of holding the parry button you're just supposed to tap it along with the relevant axis on the directional stick. If you hold it, it will time out.

Pretty good game in all other respects but I still think there should be a different way to switch body parts instead of the same stick you use to block -- I can predict it messing up a one-time opportunity to get a weapon or armor off a special enemy

[gratata]

Nonce

[Carton]

Switching targets happens all the time and it's very frustrating. Usually it happens to me because I tried to parry while staggered. Like, I'll miss the first parry of the enemy combo and I will still try to parry the second hit but I haven't recovered from the stagger and so I get a target switch. It's really annoying.

[Ninja Savior]

Originally posted by Carton:

Switching targets happens all the time and it's very frustrating. Usually it happens to me because I tried to parry while staggered. Like, I'll miss the first parry of the enemy combo and I will still try to parry the second hit but I haven't recovered from the stagger and so I get a target switch. It's really annoying.

Totally this.

[Neunmalklug]

it is so stupid. in the options we can clearly see that switching body parts is (standart) mouswheel up and down. how in the world should anyone know that if we switch around the mouse we can also cycle through body parts? noone says that, i found it out by myself and was very very angry that i cant disable this.

[Amievil]

Agree with the author of the discussion. I even tried to not touch a mousewheel at all, but it didn't help.

[Neunmalklug]

@amievil
its not the wheel which is the problem. just try targeting an enemy and switch around with the mouse without blocking, you can change the targeted limb just with mousemovement. nobody says this in tutorial or options, it cant be deactivated. i think the problem we have is, that we start mousemovement to early before we press block or too long after block.

the best would be to just let us deactivate limb targeting with mouse, we already have mousewheel or whatever 2 keys we want.

[KyrenCross]

Yes disable limb targeting with the mouse but directional blocking with mouse look should still be retained. Only have a toggle for the mouse look limb switching.

[Neunmalklug]

interesting idey kyrencross with the toggle key,
but i know myself too good, if things are getting hairy im unable to use more than 2 keys without getting panic

[Digibluez]

in boss fights it is very hectic, i can not even count how many times i died, because the limbs would stop targeting and go all over the place, because I needed to move or parry. Pls add a dedicated limb targeting option/sticky lock , for love of god pls! how did you not manage to make it work, was much better in first game for some reason, i did not had such trouble there.

[JD777]

On the technical support forum a dev posted this temp workaround and it works great.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/644830/discussions/1/1630790506914600834/

Originally posted by schnitzelpit:
For the time being, you can disable "body part switching by moving the mouse" like this: Open the file

%YOUR_STEAM_FOLDER%\steamapps\common\The Surge 2\media-next\input_binding_sets\NextMain.input_bindings.json

with a text editor and find the binding named "pick_body_part" with its "input" property being "Mouse". Remove this whole section:

"pick_body_part":
{
"input": "Mouse",
"value_type": "accumulated_value",
"push_condition": "value_accumulated",
"accumulated_value_threshold": 0.2,
"timeout": 0.05,
"normalize": false,
"category": "pick_body_part"
},

[Neunmalklug]

will try this later, thx