Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Shamanimam Mar 10, 2019 @ 10:50am
Help Me buid My Cleric irori
Ok after several half runs and and few restarts this time i know what i really wanna play this time. I created Ecclesitheurge Cleric Of Irori with strength and knowledge domain. To sum up , the idea is to be caster first and (its not that important for me to use lvl 9 spells really) punch some bad guys after.Also its not important for me to get big damages from unarmed strikes.I just want to cast spells and be annoying for enemy with punches(again its ok for me to get low numbers from unarmed strikes but i dont want to miss my punches all day and all night). Is it possible to create a character like that? If yes pls help me to build one because i think i messed up with this one :

Human

Str : 15
Dex : 16
Con : 13
Int : 7
Wis : 19
Cha : 7
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Madscientist Mar 11, 2019 @ 2:37am 
It does not work this way.

The only class who can wight well with fists are monks and you need many class levels of monk to be good because fist damage scales with monk level.
One level of monk can be good for some unarmored characters (e.g. dex based tanks for ac), but those do not fight unarmed. If you use monk as main class, multi classing is usually a bad idea.

Ecclesitheurges can be very powerful casters, but you should not use them as melee fighters. They cannot wear armor and they have a very limited weapon selection. Irori would give you the possibility to attack with your fists, but your hit chance and damage will be bad. Max out wis and give him more cha for channel energy. Basically you get an optimized Tristan. Such a char can be very powerful (massive healing and buffing power, plus almost the power of a wizard with the right domain) but stay out of melee.

NWN2 had the sacred fist prestigue class that gave monk fist progression and cleric spell progression but you got massive penalties if you use anything else but your fists. This class does not exist in pathfinder, so I guess you cannot be a good caster and a good boxer at the same time.

You could try to be a druid. You get lv. 9 divine spells and you can turn into a beast to fight in melee. Plus you get a pet which is very useful.
Except for the druid I see no way to be a good caster and a not completely useless unarmed melee fighter at the same time, if you consider beast form as unarmed fighting.
Marcos_DS Mar 11, 2019 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by Don'tPanicI'mA♥♥♥♥♥Mechanic:
Ok after several half runs and and few restarts this time i know what i really wanna play this time. I created Ecclesitheurge Cleric Of Irori with strength and knowledge domain. To sum up , the idea is to be caster first and (its not that important for me to use lvl 9 spells really) punch some bad guys after.Also its not important for me to get big damages from unarmed strikes.I just want to cast spells and be annoying for enemy with punches(again its ok for me to get low numbers from unarmed strikes but i dont want to miss my punches all day and all night). Is it possible to create a character like that? If yes pls help me to build one because i think i messed up with this one :

Human

Str : 15
Dex : 16
Con : 13
Int : 7
Wis : 19
Cha : 7

Not optimal but it should work, however i would recommend to change the stats a bit: since you will use dex as your to-hit stat, it should be as high as possible. Wis only has to get to 19 when you reach lvl 17 CLR, and since there are items that add up to +8 to wis going that high at lvl 1 is not required.

Short sketch:
Human
Str: 13
Dex: 19->24 (all level ups into dex)
Con: 10
Int: 7
Wis: 16
Cha: 13 (required for selective channel)

Monk 1 / Cleric (Herald Caller of Erastil) 19

I would not take Ecclesitheurge since domain mastery doesn't seem to work (which is the main benefit of the subclass imo)

Monk 1: weapon finesse, weapon focus (unarmed), crane style
Clr 1: Domain: Animal (to get an animal companion @lvl 4, i would recommend leopard), spontanus summoning, spontanous healing
Clr 2-19: Summoning feats are free for your class (so don't select them), selective channel, crane style line of feats, boon companion

STR 13 instead of 15 might seem off at first, but the lost bonus to damage is only one point and hitting at all is more important.

Spells:
Divine Favor (lvl 1) up to +3 luck bonus to hit and damage, good backup when you run out of Divine Power (lvl 4) & good self-only buff. Bless is only interesting in the beginning (since later you get better morale bonus which won't stack).
Archons Aura (lvl 3) adds a debuff aura to your cleric
Magic Vestement (lvl 3) adds AC bonus to your monk robes
(Animate Dead is strictly better at low levels, but higher up those two are good)
Divine Power (lvl 4) up to +6 luck bonus to hit and damage and self-haste
Geniekind (lvl5) elemental damage to your fists, and other minor boni

If you want to have cleric of iori for roleplaying reasons, you can of course play one, all you loose is the animal companion from animal domain (they are quite strong however in pathfinder:kingmaker)
Last edited by Marcos_DS; Mar 11, 2019 @ 12:40pm
Shamanimam Mar 11, 2019 @ 2:11pm 
Thanx a lot for responses.I just wanted it for some roleplaying and also wanted to give it a try and see what happens.I really liked this game and i still believe i have a lot to learn (even after 250 hours :) ) what can i say , i like to experience myself.Also whenever i make research about different style of builds i came up with (almost) same ish builds.I will listen to you guys and build according to that and lets see whats gonna happen :)
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