gamebreaking Twice Born Warlord bug?

[Scum]

I recruited vordekai, exhausted the dialogues with him in varn's body and never got the quest.
now I'm 10+ hours later in the game with event tooltips warning of a gameover if I dont complete a quest that I haven't received.

Note that I already am aware of the location of his tomb from a previous playthrough (that couldn't be completed from a gamebreaking bug not long after release). I have done the river crossing event and have circled the tomb location a hundred times.
Varn/vordekai npc now no longer exists in the dungeon, varnhold, or capital.

I was hoping that my third character, this long after initial release, wouldn't fall victim to another game breaking bug that wastes ten of hours of time. Has anyone found a fix for this? I'll just abandon the game if I have to restart again.

[Mork]

Is Amiri and Tristan have left your party and you did that part of the main story to get them back?

As for finding the tomb with only the boatman event, the perception check is around dc40+ and once you fail it, its done. You have to change party, level up or start the project.

I recommend changing party with your best perception companions(other then the one you normally use) and save far of the tomb location. Then save scum it until you find it. Be careful the perception check is long range.

Edit: also make sure to use every items that boost perception on the highest user other then main character.

[Triple G]

You need to do another quest to get the twice-born warlord quest first. But i don´t think the game will end because of that quest. Have You checked. e.g. "the curse"? The twice born warlord is Armag btw. Not Vordekai.

What exactly is Your problem? I mean after killing Vordekai - a new chapter started - no? With two quests. One concerning the twice born warlord and another concerning Tristian. I mean i spent definitely more time than 10 hours on that chapter. That was the chapter i had most time i guess. For all kingdom management, visiting every location i could and missed so far. But when You get the quests they say that You have to act fast and decide what to do first. I´ve done the barbarian part first, then Tristian - did both immediatly after getting those quests. Last i did Armag´s tomb - even missed his timer after research. But that doesn´t end the game - i don´t know what that timer did. Something about some other Barbarians. That was a hidden timer, and probably the only one i encountered. But the quest also said to act in time. I ignored that.

[Scum]

Originally posted by Mork:

Is Amiri and Tristan have left your party and you did that part of the main story to get them back?

As for finding the tomb with only the boatman event, the perception check is around dc40+ and once you fail it, its done. You have to change party, level up or start the project.

I recommend changing party with your best perception companions(other then the one you normally use) and save far of the tomb location. Then save scum it until you find it. Be careful the perception check is long range.

Edit: also make sure to use every items that boost perception on the highest user other then main character.

Probably 4/6 people in my party have 25+ perception with item bonuses, 2 of them probably 30+; there's no way I'm failing this many perception checks with the river event finished and circling the area on different save states for 45 minutes real time.
Amiri is with me and Tristian's quest just says we have to wait, which I definitely don't remember waiting long for it on other characters. At this point the Hellknight quest is finished and I have no quests other than the misc. Kingdom ones, and Tristian's that tells me to wait.

[Mork]

Amiri's barbarians war as never started?

[Scum]

Originally posted by Ghandi Wargamer:

You need to do another quest to get the twice-born warlord quest first. But i don´t think the game will end because of that quest. Have You checked. e.g. "the curse"? The twice born warlord is Armag btw. Not Vordekai.

What exactly is Your problem?

The problem is that Twice Born Warlord never starts, thus not enabling me to find his tomb and sending barbarian raids every 3 days with "your barony will fall if you dont find armag" messages. The chance of me failing the perception checks is absolutely abysmal. I have zero other quests to do sans the tristian one that it directs me to wait for and there are no significant projects to be done at the capital.
That and IIRC, Varn comes to your capital as an advisor in the standard playthrough; I recruited Vordekai instead (in Varn's body) but he is nowhere to be found.

[Scum]

Originally posted by Mork:

Amiri's barbarians war as never started?

No, last Amiri quest was the ghost giant fight at 6 bears camp

[Mork]

Sorry but i have to ask... are you using any mod?

Normally, you visit the throne room not long after Vanishing Varnhold is done and hour of rage + the Betrayer's flight start. After those 2 quests are done, you go for the tomb.

[Mork]

Since Vordakei is missing.. you have found the Varnold villagers souls right?

[Scum]

Correct, and sold them using the project.
I have no mods in use; the only nonstandard pieces of content are 2 custom portraits.

I just checked and Varnhold Vanishing is still incomplete, however it just says "await further developments".

[Mork]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1876089364

I have never done this part as evil but the good one look like this, if i remember well.

You defeat Vordekai, find the room on the left where all the souls are, make your way to the 'new' exit, talk to Maegar there and then visit throne room.

... could that be that you have to talk to Vordekai again?

[Scum]

No, I had exhausted his dialogue before leaving. I went back tot he dungeon to try and talk to him again, but he is no longer there. My journal entry specifically details that everything is finished, and that id be hearing from tristian soon.

[Triple G]

Hmm - i also did the "good" playthrough. Wanted to do the "evil" next time. I assume You were in the throne room because i think that´s where the Hellknight quest starts but i don´t know what Vordekai said in the dialog. Anything useful? Something You have to do? Some hint? I mean not that the game is giving many hints... but sometimes.

Other than that: perhaps a bug. I mean i entered the throne directly after finishing vordekai, because i wanted to go there anyway. I don´t know if the two other quests have a (hidden) timer too. I mean people have Vordekai as advisor - so i don´t think it´s connected to being "evil" and breaks the game. Perhaps consider a bug report?

[Scum]

Originally posted by Ghandi Wargamer:

Hmm - i also did the "good" playthrough. Wanted to do the "evil" next time. I assume You were in the throne room because i think that´s where the Hellknight quest starts but i don´t know what Vordekai said in the dialog. Anything useful? Something You have to do? Some hint? I mean not that the game is giving many hints... but sometimes.

Other than that: perhaps a bug. I mean i entered the throne directly after finishing vordekai, because i wanted to go there anyway. I don´t know if the two other quests have a (hidden) timer too. I mean people have Vordekai as advisor - so i don´t think it´s connected to being "evil" and breaks the game. Perhaps consider a bug report?

You have to be evil alignment to recruit him with the dialogue choice, I believe. But after I recruited him he simply disappeared; he wasnt there for the hellknight quest.

[Mork]

I feel bad for you.. i have play many times and i have never encounter any game breaking bug, even at launch. And now a third time for you?.. oh my!

You should definitely report it if not already done with F11. Vordekai gone + hour of rage and betrayer flight not starting.

Sorry, but i don't think i can help you anymore :(

[Scum]

I'm just not going to bother anymore. I have never run into this many problems with any game, especially so far from release.
With 170 hours in the game I have not finished it once and I refuse to start again.