Ranger - Sneak Attacks, And Stacking

[Duder]

I'm not sure if I made a mistake or not giving Ekundo 1 level of Rogue for sneak attack, isn't there a combat feat for that?
Stacking, I'm wondering maybe if there's a page that shows which buffs stack with which.
The game says bonuses of the same type usually don't stack, I've seen many do. Is that why the different spells bonuses are labeled "confidence bonus, perception bonus, smartass bonus etc etc
Thanks

[forkofspite]

Feat:
Accomplished Sneak Attacker - prereq is to already have sneak attack

Stacking sneak attack:
In general, they stack. Usually (perhaps always), there's a limit based on the total character level (maximum 1 die of sneak attack for each odd-numbered level). Accomplished Sneak Attacker abides by this maximum amount of sneak attack dice restriction (at least, the description indicates it does).

Bonus Types:
In general, unnamed bonuses stack (usually marked "other" in the game). Dodge bonuses also stack.

Originally posted by Duder:

I'm not sure if I made a mistake or not giving Ekundo 1 level of Rogue for sneak attack

I wouldn't, but that doesn't mean much.

[jsaving]

1 level of rogue costs you one point of AB but gives you 1d6 sneak in certain situations. If I were going to make that trade, I'd go viv rather than rogue for the +4 DEX mutagen.

[Duder]

I was hoping Ranger had a sneak attack of their own somehow. Yeah it is only 1d6 but maybe I'll keep giving him some more levels in rogue.
Viv what do you mean - another class subtype? Lol so many

[Tyrendian89]

Originally posted by Duder:

I was hoping Ranger had a sneak attack of their own somehow. Yeah it is only 1d6 but maybe I'll keep giving him some more levels in rogue.
Viv what do you mean - another class subtype? Lol so many

Vivisectionist. Essentially an Alchemist (hence the mutagen) that also gets Sneak Attack.

[Duder]

Is there a way an Eldritch Scion can use a two handed melee weapon and still use spell combat?
There's the eld archer, I don't see anything additional, am I missing something

Also I see staff slings, I haven't seen a normal sling - looking for basic crushing ranged

[Immortal Reaver]

Natural Armor also stacks (NOT NATURAL ENCHANTMENT, or any other Natural X Armor).
So you can have 2 sources of Natural Armor +5 which together will give you +10 AC, then Barskin which gives you +5 AC, Amulet of Natural Armor +4, which will give you 0 AC (because it is Natural Enchantment, same type as Barskin), then have Mutagen that gives +2 Natural Alchemical Bonus AC. To have altogether bonus of +17 AC.

[Zzyl_tsw]

Ranger was ,at the 'beginning of Dnd" (2.0), a kind of subclass of fighter that got some bonus in nature environnement plus some spells if you could get the attribute requirement (or if your GM was nice)
Think Aragorn in the "Lord of the Ring".
Hence no sneak attack, as it has no link with rogue (while you may indeed think a ranger might/should logically be able to sneak attack in nature environnement)

Regarding the stacking topic, it is one the point that typically create a "kind of articificial" difficulty in ADD/PF, because getting a clear list of rules in one place (before the net) is not so easy

The one thing that did quite help in wotr and that i did not know in PFK at the time, is that the "magic vestment" spell that increases your Armor or shield AC does stack with pre existing enchantement on your armor/shield.

So a +2 heavy shield becomes a +7 heavy shield with the spell if you are lvl 20 for example and a +2 heavy plate becomes a +7 heavy shield with the spell.
Meaning you can increase by 10 your AC....

[Immortal Reaver]

Magic Vestment is exception due to way armor and shield is coded in game.
Tower Shield +2 is coded as 6 AC shield, instead of 4 shield AC + 2 enchantment AC as it should be, same with armor.

[ptirodaktill]

Magical vestment provide bonus only once. So its max +5AC.
https://ibb.co/ydnTdhK

[forkofspite]

In Wrath (unless it has changed):

* Magic Vestment (armor) provides the enhancement bonus that stacks with the "+X" enhancement bonus from the armor.

* Magic Vestment (shield) provides the enhancement bonus that stacks with the "+X" enhancement bonus from the shield.

* Characters can benefit from both versions of magic vestment at the same time.


in Kingmaker, magic vestment (armor) stacks with the armor's existing "+X" enhancement bonus, but I can't make magic vestment (shield) work at all. The icon buff appears but does not seem to affect armor class (testing with Jaethal using a shield). Maybe that's just me, though.

[ptirodaktill]

Shield westment work only if you don`t use a shield. https://ibb.co/zZHbxbR
Don`t ask me why :D
Oh, i get it, you can only cast it on someone that has shield proficency, and it get overriden with shield spell till you cast it on CL20 for +5 bonus.
It actualy does stack with magical westament Armor, but you must cast that buff on someone with equiped shield.

[Frostfeather]

Rangers do get Sense Vitals, which gives them Sneak Attack temporarily. It's a good spell to use your lesser Extend rods on, too.

Or you can just hire a Slayer instead or use a mod to respec Ekun or whoever into a Slayer.

[99Random]

Originally posted by Duder:

Is there a way an Eldritch Scion can use a two handed melee weapon and still use spell combat?
There's the eld archer, I don't see anything additional, am I missing something

Also I see staff slings, I haven't seen a normal sling - looking for basic crushing ranged

A merchant in one of your towns (one of the Narlmarches?) sells a standard sling.

[Duder]

The numbers breakdowns in the tooltips don't seem to be accurate.
That can drive a stat nerd like myself crazy lol
I've heard they're improved in the second game?

[forkofspite]

The numbers break-down in Wrath is not always correct - difficult to compare to Kingmaker (both make mistakes). The numbers in Wrath are easier to ignore because more of them are available - easy to not notice an individual +2 where there are over a dozen modifiers adding up into the seventies.

Wrath gives the break-down of damage modifiers. Sometimes, with mistakes.