Spawn of Rovagug : how to?

[Zagaan]

I tried to beat the spawn of Rovagug on the main campaign. I have a level 18 party and ...get recked.

Granting I'm not a pro with the builds so i probably made a few mistakes here and there but :

- How are we supposed to cope with his insane debuffing spell?
- My direct damage spells (finger of death, disintegrate) seems to work...well not great but better than anything else, but his regenerating skills are juste too fast.
- I tried a "summon all that i can summon as a meat shield" tactic (summon dead, monster, wyverns) : great untill his confusing spells made my summons attack my party.
- When we talk about that, is it me or a lot of his abilities are just ...bypassing any saving throw?

Like any difficult fight in this game i suppose there is ONE tactic which will trivialize it, but I don't see which one.

I'm happy not to have Xelliren to fight too...i was going for it but exiting the map and re-entering it supress the dialogue line to reveal the truth to him...great game design

[Mork]

Slow and steady wont work against him, you basically need a heavy burst of dps to kill him.

- To protect against his mind control i use level 8 cleric spell Holy aura or Shield of law.
- Buff up your melees or physical dps with legendary proportion to increase base damage to overcome his regeneration.
- Summons are not going to work since they wont be able to bypass his DR.
- Its all about doing massive damages in a short period of time. I don't know what your group look like but heavy physical dps work well against him and/or force/holy bomb.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Zagaan:

I tried to beat the spawn of Rovagug on the main campaign. I have a level 18 party and ...get recked.

Granting I'm not a pro with the builds so i probably made a few mistakes here and there but :

- How are we supposed to cope with his insane debuffing spell?
- My direct damage spells (finger of death, disintegrate) seems to work...well not great but better than anything else, but his regenerating skills are juste too fast.
- I tried a "summon all that i can summon as a meat shield" tactic (summon dead, monster, wyverns) : great untill his confusing spells made my summons attack my party.
- When we talk about that, is it me or a lot of his abilities are just ...bypassing any saving throw?

Like any difficult fight in this game i suppose there is ONE tactic which will trivialize it, but I don't see which one.

I'm happy not to have Xelliren to fight too...i was going for it but exiting the map and re-entering it supress the dialogue line to reveal the truth to him...great game design

Wait, you fight Xelliren?

How hard is he - and does he drop worthwhile loot?

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Mork:

Slow and steady wont work against him, you basically need a heavy burst of dps to kill him.

- To protect against his mind control i use level 8 cleric spell Holy aura or Shield of law.
- Buff up your melees or physical dps with legendary proportion to increase base damage to overcome his regeneration.
- Summons are not going to work since they wont be able to bypass his DR.
- Its all about doing massive damages in a short period of time. I don't know what your group look like but heavy physical dps work well against him and/or force/holy bomb.

I reformed my melees in part to kill him. I gave everyone Seize the Moment as well as high crit weapon spec (except the main; falchions are simply too ugly for me to wield).

[Zagaan]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Wait, you fight Xelliren?

How hard is he - and does he drop worthwhile loot?

If you find all the story items in the dungeon, you can deduce that he is corrupted by the poisoning dreams of Rovagug. If you succeed to cast doubt in his mind, he will go to fight the spawn to prove he is untainted...and will be instantly mind-controlled and will fight you along the spawn. I did not fought him yet so I can't answer your question

[Zagaan]

Originally posted by Mork:

Slow and steady wont work against him, you basically need a heavy burst of dps to kill him.

- To protect against his mind control i use level 8 cleric spell Holy aura or Shield of law.
- Buff up your melees or physical dps with legendary proportion to increase base damage to overcome his regeneration.
- Summons are not going to work since they wont be able to bypass his DR.
- Its all about doing massive damages in a short period of time. I don't know what your group look like but heavy physical dps work well against him and/or force/holy bomb.

Ok...shield of law, holy aura, legendary proportion and relying on crits ...
Maybe Nok Nok would be useful there but i fear for him being too fragile

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Zagaan:

Originally posted by Lampros:

Wait, you fight Xelliren?

How hard is he - and does he drop worthwhile loot?

If you find all the story items in the dungeon, you can deduce that he is corrupted by the poisoning dreams of Rovagug. If you succeed to cast doubt in his mind, he will go to fight the spawn to prove he is untainted...and will be instantly mind-controlled and will fight you along the spawn. I did not fought him yet so I can't answer your question

Ah, ok.

[Uzkin]

Because of his array of high DR, resistances and special defenses, Spawn requires big single hits of a single damage type. Small damage events usually get reduced to insignificance and thus, depending on the class mechanics, some classes/parties really struggle vs. the Spawn.

Holy damage (e.g. holy bombs) works well, so does archery with the feat Clustered Shots. Nukes amplified with Grandmaster's Rod (such as Blade Barrier or Hellfire Ray) are likewise great against the Spawn. Paladins' Smite Evil and Aura of Justice are awesome here, if you for some reason have a high level paladin in your party.

[Zagaan]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

Because of his array of high DR, resistances and special defenses, Spawn requires big single hits of a single damage type. Small damage events usually get reduced to insignificance and thus, depending on the class mechanics, some classes/parties really struggle vs. the Spawn.

Holy damage (e.g. holy bombs) works well, so does archery with the feat Clustered Shots. Nukes amplified with Grandmaster's Rod (such as Blade Barrier or Hellfire Ray) are likewise great against the Spawn. Paladins' Smite Evil and Aura of Justice are awesome here, if you for some reason have a high level paladin in your party.

Well, I have the classic party plus my main char who is a sorcerer. No paladin in sight, alas

[Balekai]

Going to quote myself from a while back about what I did on my Sylvan Sorcerer conjurer. Take special note of the weapons mentioned below used on companions:

Originally posted by Balekai:

Axiomite/Other outsiders alpha striking the Dragon down is what I did. That's the first step.

The second step is to burn down Rova quickly before he gets too carried away with dispels and confusion. That's a lot more complicated, but once you figure it out the fight is about 1-2 minutes long. Pulling back some characters can help keep them out of the 100 foot AoE confusion too by microing during the fight Also microing out of the slam helps too, but honestly once you can burst Rova down that's less of an issue.

Notable Rova killing things:

- Prebuff with everything so you have as many buffs running as possible. Even if they don't help you in the fight. They may cover the important ones from being dispelled via RNG.
- Chain Lightnings summons to kill Dragon as mentioned/done.
- Some Movanic Devas for the Holy Aura to help you last mid fight (the 20-60 second marks).
- Holy Bombs tear through Rova for major DPS.
- Curse Bombs and also Stat damage in general works ok. I thought Cloudkill worked, but better off with Holy bombs from an Alchemist and straight DPS.
- As important as Holy Bombs, equip 2 frontliners (I used Valerie and Amiri) with AC reducing items on hit. One frontliner with the Tyrant Flail from Farnirras' Tomb which causes a stacking -1 to AC, Saving Throws and CMD per hit until the end of combat. Another with the two-handed Obliteration Earth Breaker from the Barbarian Artisan. It's his master item. It delivers a stacking -2 AC debuff per hit until the End of combat.

I took screens of my entire combat log and the AC reduction that occurred was insane when I reviewed them. By the end of the fight Rova had like 10-20 AC (Might have been Touch) and even my poor BAB chars were hitting him with everything. He stood no chance and died like a dog.

The only summons I had remaining out of about 20-40 while continuously dishing them out were my 2 First Crown guardians and 1 Movanic Deva. The others including the Barbarian helm ones died valiantly.

I did use mass heal once or twice. You should try to use it away from Rova so he's not hit by it.

[wendigo211]

You can kill him with attribute damage too if you can drain one of the them to 0. Crippling Strike works, I've heard Polar Midnight and Death Clutch can kill him as well if you can get your DCs high enough. I don't know if Overwhelming Presence would work.

I have killed him on unfair with a duo of Harrim and a Rogue 4/Sword Saint 16 using the Bane of the Living ECB. Harm bypasses SR (and SoR doesn't have any negative resist) so it was a nice little bonus on every critical hit. Harrim was there to heal and drop Grandmaster's Rod buffed Blade Barriers on him.

[Aria Athena]

If you are having trouble with his AC you can dispel his True Sight and cast Greater Invisibility on you.

Originally posted by wendigo211:

I don't know if Overwhelming Presence would work.

He is immune to negative emotions.

[Zagaan]

Originally posted by Balekai:

Going to quote myself from a while back about what I did on my Sylvan Sorcerer conjurer. Take special note of the weapons mentioned below used on companions:

Originally posted by Balekai:

Axiomite/Other outsiders alpha striking the Dragon down is what I did. That's the first step.

The second step is to burn down Rova quickly before he gets too carried away with dispels and confusion. That's a lot more complicated, but once you figure it out the fight is about 1-2 minutes long. Pulling back some characters can help keep them out of the 100 foot AoE confusion too by microing during the fight Also microing out of the slam helps too, but honestly once you can burst Rova down that's less of an issue.

Notable Rova killing things:

- Prebuff with everything so you have as many buffs running as possible. Even if they don't help you in the fight. They may cover the important ones from being dispelled via RNG.
- Chain Lightnings summons to kill Dragon as mentioned/done.
- Some Movanic Devas for the Holy Aura to help you last mid fight (the 20-60 second marks).
- Holy Bombs tear through Rova for major DPS.
- Curse Bombs and also Stat damage in general works ok. I thought Cloudkill worked, but better off with Holy bombs from an Alchemist and straight DPS.
- As important as Holy Bombs, equip 2 frontliners (I used Valerie and Amiri) with AC reducing items on hit. One frontliner with the Tyrant Flail from Farnirras' Tomb which causes a stacking -1 to AC, Saving Throws and CMD per hit until the end of combat. Another with the two-handed Obliteration Earth Breaker from the Barbarian Artisan. It's his master item. It delivers a stacking -2 AC debuff per hit until the End of combat.

I took screens of my entire combat log and the AC reduction that occurred was insane when I reviewed them. By the end of the fight Rova had like 10-20 AC (Might have been Touch) and even my poor BAB chars were hitting him with everything. He stood no chance and died like a dog.

The only summons I had remaining out of about 20-40 while continuously dishing them out were my 2 First Crown guardians and 1 Movanic Deva. The others including the Barbarian helm ones died valiantly.

I did use mass heal once or twice. You should try to use it away from Rova so he's not hit by it.

Hmmm, thank you very much, I will try with that. I think i still have the farrinaras weapons. I will have to wait a little for the earth bearker masterwork though. Not that big of a deal.

[jsaving]

Yeah, this is probably the one battle in the game you absolutely cannot win without a bit of strategy no matter how many times you reload. A lot of people just knock it down to story mode but the encounter is a lot more satisfying if you take the time to figure out what is needed and then beat him.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Balekai:

The only summons I had remaining out of about 20-40 while continuously dishing them out were my 2 First Crown guardians and 1 Movanic Deva. The others including the Barbarian helm ones died valiantly.

How do you get these summons?

[jsaving]

The barbarian helm and first crown are earned through play. Movanic devas are a standard high-level monster summoning option.