Bracers of Armor Bug?

[Bamsmacked]

The Bracers of Armor you get at the begining of game don't seem to be applying bonus... Anyone else notice this?

[xkuripuri]

Are you wearing armor? The Bracers of Armor grant an "armor bonus", which is exactly what wearing actual armor gives you. Bonuses of the same category don't stack, only the highest applies.

[Broseph]

Are you wearing the ring from the beginning? You can only get one "AC Bonus".

[xkuripuri]

Originally posted by 「ＢＲＯＳＥＰＨ」:

Are you wearing the ring from the beginning? You can only get one "AC Bonus".

Actually, that should stack, because that ring is giving you a "deflection bonus", which is different from an armor bonus.
To the best of my knowledge anyway, as long as the names aren't the same, they should stack.

[Bamsmacked]

Oh wow I thought it gave you a flat 1 AC... That's dumb. The bracers are almost worthless then. Rolled a new game and no one in my group can benefit from it yet because we all have on at least a light armor.

[Bamsmacked]

Originally posted by xkuripuri:

Originally posted by 「ＢＲＯＳＥＰＨ」:

Are you wearing the ring from the beginning? You can only get one "AC Bonus".

Actually, that should stack, because that ring is giving you a "deflection bonus", which is different from an armor bonus.
To the best of my knowledge anyway, as long as the names aren't the same, they should stack.

They do STACK, but you can't be wearing armor.

[Greb]

Hey my entire group have been wearing Bracers of Armour +5 for a while now and I never noticed that. That's kinda lame. I haven't found any other bracers worth half a damn at all except a few archer bracers which I naturally put on my archers.

What's the point of them? Running around wearing necklaces of natural armour, rings of protection, bracers of armour, and heavy / medium / light armour, plus some of us have shields...are you saying you only need one of those, since they don't stack with each other? That sucks..

So bracers seem to be useful only if you're a robe wearing sissy then?

[xkuripuri]

Originally posted by Bamsmacked:

Oh wow I thought it gave you a flat 1 AC... That's dumb. The bracers are almost worthless then. Rolled a new game and no one in my group can benefit from it yet because we all have on at least a light armor.

They're meant for classes that can't wear armor, like a wizard, monk, sorcerer, or the caster Cleric type. Wouldn't toss them, because who knows, you might get one of those in the future!

[Bamsmacked]

Originally posted by xkuripuri:

Originally posted by Bamsmacked:

Oh wow I thought it gave you a flat 1 AC... That's dumb. The bracers are almost worthless then. Rolled a new game and no one in my group can benefit from it yet because we all have on at least a light armor.

They're meant for classes that can't wear armor, like a wizard, monk, sorcerer, or the caster Cleric type. Wouldn't toss them, because who knows, you might get one of those in the future!

I gave them to Linzie for now, I'm not tossing them.

Obviously, I can find a use for them I just thought i got a flat bonus.

[For_Science!]

Originally posted by Greb:

What's the point of them? Running around wearing necklaces of natural armour, rings of protection, bracers of armour, and heavy / medium / light armour, plus some of us have shields...are you saying you only need one of those, since they don't stack with each other? That sucks..

Most of those things do stack with each other. If you have two different bonuses of the SAME TYPE -- two deflection bonuses, for example, or two natural armor bonuses -- then only the higher one applies. Two bonuses of different types will always stack.

So in your example, the rings (deflection bonuses), amulets (natural armor bonus), shields (shield bonus) and armor (armor bonus) all stack. The bracers, though, are another armor bonus, so they don't stack with your actual armor.

[TripSin]

Originally posted by Escapist83:

Originally posted by Greb:

Hey my entire group have been wearing Bracers of Armour +5 for a while now and I never noticed that. That's kinda lame. I haven't found any other bracers worth half a damn at all except a few archer bracers which I naturally put on my archers.

What's the point of them? Running around wearing necklaces of natural armour, rings of protection, bracers of armour, and heavy / medium / light armour, plus some of us have shields...are you saying you only need one of those, since they don't stack with each other? That sucks..

So bracers seem to be useful only if you're a robe wearing sissy then?

All those things stack except the bracers and the armor.

Why the ♥♥♥♥ does everything else stack but not bracers and armor? This system is so inane.

[Qiox]

The only exception is AC bonuses of type Dodge. All Dodge bonuses stack with other Dodge bonuses.

[xkuripuri]

Originally posted by TripSin:

Originally posted by Escapist83:

All those things stack except the bracers and the armor.

Why the ♥♥♥♥ does everything else stack but not bracers and armor? This system is so inane.

Because they grant the same kind of bonus. There's a reason the wording is important, like I didn't know for a while that a "competency bonus" is effectively the same thing as getting a bonus. They give it a different name, because of the fact any bonus sharing the same name do not stack, and only the highest applies.

[CapRichard]

Originally posted by Greb:

Hey my entire group have been wearing Bracers of Armour +5 for a while now and I never noticed that. That's kinda lame. I haven't found any other bracers worth half a damn at all except a few archer bracers which I naturally put on my archers.

What's the point of them? Running around wearing necklaces of natural armour, rings of protection, bracers of armour, and heavy / medium / light armour, plus some of us have shields...are you saying you only need one of those, since they don't stack with each other? That sucks..

So bracers seem to be useful only if you're a robe wearing sissy then?

The same source can't stack, different ones do stack.

Amulet of Natural armor is a natural armor bonus, shield gives a shield bonus and armor gives an armor bonus. Braces of armors also give an armor bobus so they don't stack with armor. Rings usually give deflection bonus.

Mind that this also applies to spells. A shield spell gives a shield bonus. If you already have a shield, its bonus its wasted. Same with some spells that give deflection bonus: you're wating your rings. Between multiple buffs from the same source, the highest apply.

Only Dodge bonus can stack.

It's a rule straight out of the tabletop.

[Qiox]

Originally posted by TripSin:

Originally posted by Escapist83:

All those things stack except the bracers and the armor.

Why the ♥♥♥♥ does everything else stack but not bracers and armor? This system is so inane.

They stack with each other, but they don't stack with themselves.

A Natural armor bonus does not stack with another Natural armor bonus. But it will stack with a Deflection bonus, and with a Shield bonus, and with a Luck bonus, and with a Morale bonus, and with a Sacred bonus, etc...

Each of those types stacks with each other, but not with another of the same type.

The only exception is type Dodge.

[Greb]

29 AC, 27 Flat-Footed, 15 Touch, 40 Speed with my Dragonscale armour on.

36 AC, 20 Flat-Footed, 29 Touch, 50 Speed with my Dragonscale armour off.

Wee. I wish the stats showed positive or negative arrows when you hover over different pieces of armour. Would make it so much easier to tell if what I'm buying / wearing is going to actually be useful. It wouldn't take much, just a tiny upwards green arrow if it would increase it, or a tiny red downwards arrow if it would decrease it.

I'll never understand this game! I guess that explains why not wearing armour doesn't put you in your underwear, anyway. Still..ARGH. It doesn't feel right to be wearing no armour. I'm a Fighter! Why is wearing robes better than wearing a full suit of metal! Argh! Damn you!

I know there are bonus qualities to things, like Adamantium or Mythril, and the Dragonscale armour provided +30 Acid Resistance, not sure if that's worth the 6 AC and 10 Speed though now. Sadness!

I FINALLY FELT COMFORTABLE WITH MYSELF AND YOU RUINED IT