Is the feat "piranha attack" worth?

[Pwned]

Im playing a two weapon rogue ( knife master ) using kukris. Should I pick piranha attack which give damage boost but with attack roll penalty?

[Kommissar K]

Sure, its like Power Attack, but for those that have Dex instead of Str.

I doubt there is the Agile weapon quality, or the Fencing/Slashing Grace feats, so its probably the best option you have for increasing damage.

If you have Str 13 though, you ought to just take Power Attack.

[bakasora]

I took it and regret it.
What's the point of increasing damage when you can't hit the target?
I turned it off most of the time.

[shaki92]

Originally posted by Kommissar Klose:

I doubt there is the Agile weapon quality, or the Fencing/Slashing Grace feats, so its probably the best option you have for increasing damage.

What do you mean? All of those are in the game

[Erikkustrife]

Originally posted by Kommissar Klose:

Sure, its like Power Attack, but for those that have Dex instead of Str.

I doubt there is the Agile weapon quality, or the Fencing/Slashing Grace feats, so its probably the best option you have for increasing damage.

If you have Str 13 though, you ought to just take Power Attack.

There is agile weapon quality, and both fencing grace and slashing grace are in.

[Erikkustrife]

Originally posted by bakasora:

I took it and regret it.
What's the point of increasing damage when you can't hit the target?
I turned it off most of the time.

yea your supposed to use it when you know you can hit the ac with just your modifiers its something you would use on normal diff.

[Kommissar K]

Originally posted by bakasora:

I took it and regret it.
What's the point of increasing damage when you can't hit the target?
I turned it off most of the time.

Because the target might have DR, and increasing damage is quite important.

Because you likely also have a pretty decent Crit Threat range, and the damage is multiplied on a crit.

Because when you're not playing in a game where enemy AC is artificially inflated, it is quite reasonable to be able to hit.

Because sometimes an enemy is just a bit easy to hit.

Because it is possible to buff your attack bonus pretty high, so anything to help improve that into also being a high attack and damage is quite preferable.

[ChopSuey™]

It is a skill to take ONLY if your stats and build demand it. Its one of those that is really meant for a specific build imo.
So youre using light and blade. I assume dex is a high stat of yours as a rogue and ure using that to replace STR using the rogues finesse & STR to DEX lvl 3 ability? If so yes. It fits your build as a solid choice to add a bit more punch. Toggle it sparingly at the lower lvls depending on your situation but higher lvls when you have +atk to spare definately on all the time.
EDIT :- your key rogue ability here i assume is knife so ANYTHING small blade or dex if you're relying on that to do dmg/atk is where you want to head without a doubt.

[Pwned]

Originally posted by Kommissar Klose:

Sure, its like Power Attack, but for those that have Dex instead of Str.

I doubt there is the Agile weapon quality, or the Fencing/Slashing Grace feats, so its probably the best option you have for increasing damage.

If you have Str 13 though, you ought to just take Power Attack.

I only have str 10. Should I try to get str 13 and get power attack aswell? Will power attack stack with piranha attack ?

[Turkwise]

Just like how making a strength based melee attacker almost always requires power attack, a dex based melee will almost always require piranha strike.

[ChopSuey™]

No stack :)
EDIT:- If you've got low str and high dex and thats your build. FOCUS on that :)

[SIlverblade-T-E]

such things are superb for taking down Low AC high threat enemies, like, wizards ;)

you also need 2 sets of weapons
one with high + bonus to hit tougher targets or any with decent AC
the other with effects like Flaming for easy to hit or normal enemies which you can Slice & Dice

a +3 Kukri would be more use to you than a +1 Keen Kukri

[Pwned]

Originally posted by bakasora:

I took it and regret it.
What's the point of increasing damage when you can't hit the target?
I turned it off most of the time.

Originally posted by ChopSuey™:

It is a skill to take ONLY if your stats and build demand it. Its one of those that is really meant for a specific build imo.
So youre using light and blade. I assume dex is a high stat of yours as a rogue and ure using that to replace STR using the rogues finesse & STR to DEX lvl 3 ability? If so yes. It fits your build as a solid choice to add a bit more punch. Toggle it sparingly at the lower lvls depending on your situation but higher lvls when you have +atk to spare definately on all the time.

Yea im currently lvl 5. My stats are: Str 10, dex 20, con 10, wis 14, cha 15.
I picked, two weapon fighting, weapon finesse, weapon focus dagger, stealthy, dodge, martial prof.,

[Pwned]

Originally posted by SIlverblade-T-E:

such things are superb for taking down Low AC high threat enemies, like, wizards ;)

you also need 2 sets of weapons
one with high + bonus to hit tougher targets or any with decent AC
the other with effects like Flaming for easy to hit or normal enemies which you can Slice & Dice

a +3 Kukri would be more use to you than a +1 Keen Kukri

which weapon set hits easy to high ac?

[Kommissar K]

Originally posted by Pwnedcake:

Originally posted by SIlverblade-T-E:

such things are superb for taking down Low AC high threat enemies, like, wizards ;)

you also need 2 sets of weapons
one with high + bonus to hit tougher targets or any with decent AC
the other with effects like Flaming for easy to hit or normal enemies which you can Slice & Dice

a +3 Kukri would be more use to you than a +1 Keen Kukri

which weapon set hits easy to high ac?

The main thing that weapon type is going to impact for you is if it is a light weapon or not. Generally you will want to always be using a light weapon as this is a dex build.

After that,there isn't a whole lot about weapons that you need to be overly worried about with regards to hitting AC.

The base weapon die just indicates how much damage it deals.
The damage type can help you bypass different kinds of DR.
The weapon material may help it bypass certain kinds of DR. Some materials may even hinder your attack bonus.
The crit threat range can help make crits more common.
The crit damage multiplier can make crits deal more damage.

All of these are good things to keep track of, but none of them are going to directly help you hit a target's AC. If you want to hit, just get a weapon with a higher enhancement bonus (i.e. a +2 weapon over a +1 weapon).

[ChopSuey™]

Youre heading down a decent track either way. Piranha is Power attack for dex characters as has been stated above and you've done it in the right way. With the kukris crit range i'd perhaps focus on improving that and maybe its effectiveness after that.
You could really take a hard look, depending on how you see the character, at a myriad of things seeing as youre growing from 5 :)
EDIT:- hitting high ac is just having more attack so any skills that add +atk to breach the AC. Piranah will -atk for +dam so at lower lvls against more armored enemies you may need to toggle off.