Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Wait until the fog clears away
How long do I have to wait? I only have 13 days left on the main quest :steamsad:
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mega Sep 30, 2018 @ 9:20pm 
I totally ignored that and just went forward with the quest.
Serrassi Effect Sep 30, 2018 @ 9:20pm 
the fog clears during the time skip between chapter 1 and 2. just go on with the main quest and the fog will clear after.
greennus Sep 30, 2018 @ 10:04pm 
You need to visit Temple of the Elk and kill everything there and follow your rival in Old Sycamore. After you have done both you need to go back to Oleg's Trading Post and just talk to everyone there. Should trigger Stag Lord's place to be available on your map. After Stag Lord return again to Oleg's Trading Post and talk to Oleg to trigger start of Act 2. Hope that helps.

P.S. Remember to do a hard save at the start of Act 2 and don't overwrite it!
Last edited by greennus; Sep 30, 2018 @ 10:06pm
Humble Sep 30, 2018 @ 10:18pm 
13 day? you might not had time to do that if not already temple of the Elk, Old Sycamore, Stag Lord, if level low and wizard, good chance game over. I done 32 day with most quest and explorer most,, but my best speed is 16 day for main quest and some side quest, What did cause you use many day for? Are you chance playing wizard?
Hannah Barbara Sep 30, 2018 @ 10:52pm 
Yes I'm playing wizard also I used a lot of camps because I was trying to kill the skeleton head and kept getting ambushed.
Natsuki Nov 30, 2020 @ 2:54am 
this mechanic pissed me off sooo damn much! been playing this game for weeks.. (off-and-on), exploring the lands.. the game never gave me any clear direction as to where to go just I gotta find and kill this Stag Lord guy.
After clearing or visiting all of the world map nodes available to me.. got two new companions too.. I figure out, 'oh, there's a small tile in the abandoned hut node that I never clicked on because I wasn't holding the tab key when I was standing there'.. so get back on track for main quest.. get to stag lord.. <1 day left.. kill him.. game ends while marching back.
try to go back to old saves to get more time.. turns out I was f'ked from long before I realized or have meaningful saves.. gonna have to basically go back to end of prologue.
not only did I burn time trying to do what I now know I need to do.. but have to toss out real-life days of progress.. basically start over. because of a poorly managed quest mechanic.
yes, I was given a time frame at the start.. but do I have any idea of how long stuff takes to do never having played before? no. does the game give me any direction as to where to go? no. does it give early reminders (you're running out of time, get on this ♥♥♥♥. soon you won't have enough time left to complete) no. does it present me with a tableau of places to explore that don't contribute to this constrained time frame? yes.

I am not happy at all. I hope there isn't any more ♥♥♥♥ like this in the rest of the game.. because I just won't be able to muster up the will to finish it if that is the case. Well I might, due the completionist gamer style within me, but I won't enjoy it. which is sad.. because it could be enjoyable.

Ultimately, it's not that I blew the quest timer that frustrates me.. it's that the game allows you and encourages you to do so in a manner where it becomes unable to be completed long before you can ever be expected to realize that it is.. even if you're checking the quest timer frequently. You just don't know how much time things take or how many steps are left in the quest. I wasted hella time playing an unwinnable situation.
Gilgamesh Nov 30, 2020 @ 2:57am 
Unfortunately this aspect of the game is very unclear, and it just becomes worse when everything is timed. Basically you have to clear the main objectives for the next area to become available. Always like this for the entire game. None of the quest is marked unless you hover over the already explored area because linzi is the worst bard i've ever met when it comes to journals (And i do record keeping as a living). My god why cant i fire her and get someone better.

Eventually you'd get sections you cant annex because you aren't in the right chapter.

Also triggering season of bloom at Hunter's lodge will make Ekun disappear even if you are still in troll trouble quest.
Last edited by Gilgamesh; Nov 30, 2020 @ 2:59am
konokono Nov 30, 2020 @ 8:48am 
I appreciate that this game encourages you to explore without holding your hand. On the other hand, there are lots of times where bad design makes it so that you can't tell whether you're doing something wrong or whether the game was just poorly designed.

For example, there's a sidequest later in Act 3 that tells you go to go Varnhold. The problem is, you get the quest before you're able to go to Varnhold, leading to confusion about how to do the quest. Then, once Varnhold opens up due to the story, if you finish the story quest you can't complete the sidequest. So that's just bad design.

So I'm sorry to hear that you missed out on a quest trigger in the abandoned house. Was it required for opening up the location of the Stag Fort, though? I thought you could just discover the Stag Fort while walking the map, but I could be mistaken.

In either case, important quest triggers should probably not be hidden or missable once you enter the requisite area.

Companions should also not be made missable based simply on whether or not you happened to explore a location in a certain timeframe.
Last edited by konokono; Nov 30, 2020 @ 8:49am
Immortal Reaver Nov 30, 2020 @ 9:18am 
Originally posted by Natsuki:
this mechanic pissed me off sooo damn much! been playing this game for weeks.. (off-and-on), exploring the lands.. the game never gave me any clear direction as to where to go just I gotta find and kill this Stag Lord guy.
Yes it does, in dialoge that you probably skipped, never ever skip dialoge in this game, it holds most relevant information to quests, while information in journal is bare bones.

Originally posted by konokono:
For example, there's a sidequest later in Act 3 that tells you go to go Varnhold. The problem is, you get the quest before you're able to go to Varnhold, leading to confusion about how to do the quest. Then, once Varnhold opens up due to the story, if you finish the story quest you can't complete the sidequest. So that's just bad design.

So I'm sorry to hear that you missed out on a quest trigger in the abandoned house. Was it required for opening up the location of the Stag Fort, though? I thought you could just discover the Stag Fort while walking the map, but I could be mistaken.

Quest near Varnhold - it is timed and if you are quick you finish it after finishing story quest.

Stag Fort is revelead when you finish Temple of Elk, Abbandoned Hut, (and to get to abbandoned hut and temple you need complete Ford over the River) and kill Tartucio(Sycamore), then go to Oleg's and "Guardian of the Bloom" will be near gate, to say fog cleared around Stag Fort.
aramintai Nov 30, 2020 @ 10:27am 
After the temple of the Elk you gotta go to the Old Sycamore and finish the quest there, not just wait around skipping time, lol.
Beef Hammer Nov 30, 2020 @ 12:36pm 
You literally have to skip the story and ♥♥♥♥ around doing nothing to waste that much time and not know what to do or think the game isn't clear about where to go in act 1.
konokono Nov 30, 2020 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by Beef Hammer:
You literally have to skip the story and ♥♥♥♥ around doing nothing to waste that much time and not know what to do or think the game isn't clear about where to go in act 1.

He mentioned that he missed a quest trigger at the Abandoned House. I can see how that leads to confusion. I remember I almost missed it to because you have to walk to a specific area close to the house for the conversation to trigger.
Immortal Reaver Nov 30, 2020 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by konokono:
Originally posted by Beef Hammer:
You literally have to skip the story and ♥♥♥♥ around doing nothing to waste that much time and not know what to do or think the game isn't clear about where to go in act 1.

He mentioned that he missed a quest trigger at the Abandoned House. I can see how that leads to confusion. I remember I almost missed it to because you have to walk to a specific area close to the house for the conversation to trigger.
You can do that at any location. There was guy who missed Kressle at Ford over River and then complained that there are no more quests to complete.
Icedfate Oct 30, 2021 @ 5:25pm 
i take a bit of issue with people suggesting that it's "obvious" where to go.
i'm kinda stuck with 18 days left in tha stag lord quest and don't know where to go.
i did the stuff at the sycamore tree and i've practically explored the entire map that's available to me.
so far
i
main story related
ancient tomb : found tartuccio, defeated his guys, went ouside and tried to track him and failed 1 of the 20 consecutive skill checks and lost the trail. .
abandoned hut : i forget what happened there. . edit : went back and yeah, i remember thr images of that guys who was abused by his father but then turned around and stood up to him and emsalved him and it suggests that is the origin of the Stag Lord. i looted the stuff inside the house, killed the wolf in the lower left. . .
randomly attacked by the technic group : defeated them , rescued octavia and reg
temple of the elk : killed all the enemies, cleared the mist, rescued tristan

old sycamore : guy told me they found tartuccio and says to go get him, but never told me where. . i cleared the whole place out, even that warg. . there was "supposed" to be a "mite hunter" that spawns "on the southern peninsula"that gives a quest to kill the warg and i never saw this guy. he never appeared for me. i walked that whole map 3-4 times. imeven looked at screenshots to find him and i go to the place in the screenshot and there's nothing/nobody there.


optional content(?)
at various moments along the way, I

went to fangberry cave, cleared out the spiders, did the quest
endless plains : killed the manticore
waterlogged island : did the narrative there, got the emerald
nettles crossing ; got the task to kill stag lord
thorn ford : i forgot, there see,ed to be nothing memorable
tuskgutters lair : did amiris compaiin task

areas that seem too hard
old oak : has a high level troll
boggard hunting grounds : level 5-7 boggards that murder me
tranquil river bend : even higher level boggards
old mesa : a greater werewolf that i can't harm without silver weapons. . which are conveniently unavailable
ratnook hill : level 9 rogue wererats, that i also cannot kill
trail in the hills : a level 10 leopard that slaughters everyone
three pine islet : i killed some tatslewur,s, got a nunchaku of flames nobody can use. . because i don't have a monk


pine patch : i see it on the map , but there's no path to it
two rivers field : same as above


all other places have paths leading into the fog, which just turns me away.

i see people talking about "a fort" but i swear i've been down every path
i also see people say "talk to everyone at the trading post" and i did. i exhausted every dialogue option.

someone above said "the fog doesn't clear until chapter 2"
can you blame someone for being confused though, when in the journal , it says
"Wait until the fog clears away : our priest friends jhog and tristian recommend we wait until the fog clears away. THEN we'll finally be ready to set off for the stag lord's fortress!"

which implies that the fortress is somewhere in the fog and you have to "wait" some time to get the fog to clear away.

but then i see elsewhere that all this can be done in the first 30 days and you even get an extra bonus reward if you can do it within that shorter timespan.

whatever, i'm gonna have to google a walkthrough now and get spoilers to figure this out and that makes me salty. .

also, i dunno people saying they were level 5 at this point, but i'm still 400xp short of level 4. . .
Last edited by Icedfate; Oct 30, 2021 @ 5:34pm
MagnusGrey Oct 30, 2021 @ 5:36pm 
FYI every chapter gives you access to more of the map. If you try to leave the area you can reach you will get a story reason why you cant go further. In chapter 1 its the fog, later chapters have other reasons, but the core thing to know is that each chapter has a new area you can reach and new boarders that you cannot cross.
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