Why all the negative reviews; are people this bad at DnD?

[RandomIdiot]

Most negative reviews I've seen are about:

Originally posted by 13 year old kid:

- I can't beat spider swarms because I have no fire/acid/magic! Not even on easy!
- Game is too difficult!
- Bugs everywhere!
- This game has a time limit!

And... that seems to be it.

First of all, most enemies that have to be killed by a specific type of damage have no resistance, so you can still hurt them with your other characters and let someone with elemental or magically enchanted magic finish the job with *shock* one hit.

Secondly, you get two free torches. Uhm, if that fails to do the job against the early enemies, then you are clearly not used to playing RPG games and I think you should uninstall every RPG game you've ever bought.

Thirdly, before you have a chance to encounter these enemies... you already gain a level up. That means you can already customise a full party exactly in the classes needed to hold your own in any encounter... and you are also not locked into a class on any companion like some Neverwinter Nights NPCs were.

Fourth, if you have Amiri in your team--who is a friggin' OP barbarian companion--you basically get a free +1 enchanted 2H weapon that can deal a ton of damage considering you are level 1 (Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights never gave you these goodies that early, mind you). She's meant to be both optimised and overpowered and you can get her right at the start. Questions?

Fifth, at the Trade Outpost you can already have the money to buy a +1 enchanted weapon. Which you obviously don't even need, but you could totally get one if you are insecure. I even saw one kid complain he had to buy acid flasks (he called them bombs). Why not invest in a +1 weapon then? xD

Seriously, I don't associate the early part of the game with the term "difficult" at all and I'm a person that refunded Darkest Dungeon because I didn't feel like playing a roguelike RNGesus game (not ashamed to admit that, games that are 100% luck-based are not my cup of tea).

But this game is a masterpiece. I've also only encountered two minor bugs across seven hours. My level up screen sometimes comes up blank, which I *shock* fix by going one page back and one page forward. Secondly if I alt+tab my keyboard sometimes stops functioning ingame and I can't get it to work until I restart the game.

And... that's it. So clearly people don't know what they are talking about. Do not trust the negative reviews of this game... this is an actual DnD masterpiece. What difficulty? What bugs? We finally get an ACTUAL game that plays like DnD on PC since Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights... and then all these 13 year olds swarm with their negative reviews because they don't know how to play?

Dafuq bro, that's messed up...

...Unlike this game: which is really, really good.

[=]

Or they have spent dozens of hours in the game only to have it ruined by a bug.

The constant penis waving "git gud" ♥♥♥♥ is just pathetic.

[Harem Route]

The issue with swarms is that there was absolutely no indication that enemies like this exist to begin with. So people unfamiliar with DnD and Pathfinder were absolutely taken by surprise.
Now, after the hotfix that explains these enemies and gives you some bombs that should not be an issue.

Time limit, bugs and bloated enemy stats still are a problem though.

[TimidObserver]

Originally posted by =:

Or they have spent dozens of hours in the game only to have it ruined by a bug.

The constant penis waving "git gud" ♥♥♥♥ is just pathetic.

I don't think this game is perfect. I think the AI sucks compared to other modern CRPGs. However, I don't understand how people get their game ruined by anything given that there is a save feature.

[GreyFox]

Originally posted by =:

The constant penis waving "git gud" ♥♥♥♥ is just pathetic.

They play on story mode too! The funniest part is that no one cares even if they don't, meanwhile the devs are actually fixing things and clearly care about the reviews/issues.

They just need/want attention but don't and won't get it b/c no one gives a fuq. But you can check out my Darkest Dungeon achievements and he had to rage quit that one! hahaha

[raubrey]

You get a warning tool-tip now about the swarms and the alchemist gives you proper flasks. They fixed the bear apparently as it died before it even reached my party and I killed the wererats at level 3. I'm not an uber-skilled player. They left more than one notice about working on balance and anything above normal is theory-crafting, extra dangerous anyway.

Then there are people that choose to camp in areas with burnt/dead bodies...

[Quacksalber]

While I'm not a fan of people flooding new games with negative reviews when they have hardly played/refuse to turn the difficulty down etc, thus ruining the game's reputation and when they could as easily post in a forum about their issues, the tone of this post and similar really doesn't help. So it's only for the super pros like you. Nice, but it's unlikely to pay the dev's wages.

[RandomIdiot]

Originally posted by Tom Sawyer:

The issue with swarms is that there was absolutely no indication that enemies like this exist to begin with. So people unfamiliar with DnD and Pathfinder were absolutely taken by surprise.
Now, after the hotfix that explains these enemies and gives you some bombs that should not be an issue.

Time limit, bugs and bloated enemy stats still are a problem though.

Uhm, only the exact moment before the very first encounter you are 100% explained that some enemies require a hit with magic/acid/fire to be killed? xD

Also that is still no complaint. In Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights you also suddenly encountered these enemies and these actually provided NO on-screen tutorials that prepared you for it--which this game does!

In fact, in Baldur's gate 2 you can find a Lich that casts Time Stop in one of the very first taverns you enter. This is like an instant game over until you hit a much higher level or if you become aware of ways to cheese the lich (by leaving the room or buying a powerful spell scroll to counter undead). But no normal player will ever figure that out at the start. That, is hardcore. This game just tells you right at the start "hey, watch out, better use those two free torches we gave you, some enemies are otherwise not going to die".

How is that unfair unless you can't play games and can't read what's on your screen... in which case, why are you playing games, again?

[raubrey]

Originally posted by uta:

While I'm not a fan of people flooding new games with negative reviews when they have hardly played/refuse to turn the difficulty down etc, thus ruining the game's reputation and when they could as easily post in a forum about their issues, the tone of this post and similar really doesn't help. So it's only for the super pros like you. Nice, but it's unlikely to pay the dev's wages.

That's the thing, I don't know about the OP but I never project to be pro. I gladly admit to usually playing normal or easy because it's more relaxing to me. I do have experience but 7/10 people either play at too hard a difficulty the first time and/or don't read and/or have not been following the dev's progress notes to know to avoid situations in the first place.

[GreyFox]

Originally posted by uta:

Nice, but it's unlikely to pay the dev's wages.

Bingo, those 13 yo kids parents pay for the game too and so did we when we were 13. Besides you'd rather bring those kids along and keep them as fans. OP for sure don't have and wont' have a business that's for sure.

I also agree about flooding the game reviews with negative reviews....I haven't and wont' review the game but post on here and that's it....I do think it's fair though if you pay for a game and it literally crashes like the OSX/Linux people have 100% right to neg review.

[CelestialSlayer]

I find it laughable that the fanboy consensus idle that anyone with a negative review is to stupid to choose the difficulty. First thing I did was customise it to my liking. For me it’s just not a polished game. It’s so freaking hard to work out the levelling up, and with no skill/feat reset option I fail to see how this will recruit new players to Paizo/pathfinder. I can’t waste my limited free time playing a game I might not be able to finish through poor levelling up decisions earlier in the game.

[RandomIdiot]

Originally posted by dragonfleetusa:

Originally posted by =:

The constant penis waving "git gud" ♥♥♥♥ is just pathetic.

They play on story mode too! The funniest part is that no one cares even if they don't, meanwhile the devs are actually fixing things and clearly care about the reviews/issues.

They just need/want attention but don't and won't get it b/c no one gives a fuq. But you can check out my Darkest Dungeon achievements and he had to rage quit that one! hahaha

Like I said, I don't LIKE luck games. I never said I didn't get far, did I? Just that I grew tired of it.
Unlike this game, where there are actual people reviewing the game saying they can't progress it on story or easy. I'm playing it on the default settings and it's a walk in the park. Plus every single complaint people have is countered by an instruction the devs put on your screen.

[RandomIdiot]

Originally posted by CelestialSlayer:

I find it laughable that the fanboy consensus idle that anyone with a negative review is to stupid to choose the difficulty. First thing I did was customise it to my liking. For me it’s just not a polished game. It’s so freaking hard to work out the levelling up, and with no skill/feat reset option I fail to see how this will recruit new players to Paizo/pathfinder. I can’t waste my limited free time playing a game I might not be able to finish through poor levelling up decisions earlier in the game.

Have you ever even played DnD (regardless of if you know what Pathfinder is)?
This is exactly that.

[GreyFox]

d20
Why is it called that
I wonder
"don't like luck games"
hmmm

[RandomIdiot]

Originally posted by uta:

While I'm not a fan of people flooding new games with negative reviews when they have hardly played/refuse to turn the difficulty down etc, thus ruining the game's reputation and when they could as easily post in a forum about their issues, the tone of this post and similar really doesn't help. So it's only for the super pros like you. Nice, but it's unlikely to pay the dev's wages.

Only I am not super pro, I am pretty average at DnD in general. These are like basic things I am talking about. These negative reviews are comparable to someone saying a shooter is too hard because he can't figure out how the left mouse button works.

[RandomIdiot]

Originally posted by dragonfleetusa:

d20
Why is it called that
I wonder
"don't like luck games"
hmmm

Yeah, only you get tons of bonuses that you can freely allocate in a DnD game to make your own build, so you never roll a D20, you roll a D20 + whatever you levelled on your character.

Unlike the more difficult roguelikes where it's just "oh... my characters just died because I got below average gear and above average enemies... let's reset..." <- this is NEVER the case in DnD.

Again. I did not say I did not get far. I did not say Darkest Dungeon is a bad game. I said I don't play luck games. DnD is not a luck game. It's a roleplaying game.