When is a skill 'high enough'?

[Godwin]

I am level 3 and due to a number of stacking bonuses I have 17 persuasion... and I wonder, is 20 the max as is with stats?

Should I still put 1 point/level into Persuasion after 20 or just go for others?

OR, should I take the Persuasive feat for a nice +4?

Thanks.

[JoeVonFo]

There is no cap on skills as far as I'm aware..
But just out of curiousity..
How did you get to 17 persuasion at lvl 3? Especially without the +4 feat :P

[Godwin]

Aasimar, Muze-touched.
20 Charisma.
Sorcerer.
Serpentine Bloodline.
Viper familiar at lvl 3.

And okay, there is no cap.. but what difficulty can I reasonably expect to have to overcome?

I mean, if there's 2 checks in the entire game that are DC 40 I mean.. not worth it?

But maybe standard lvl 10 DC's are 60 points? I have no idea.

[xkuripuri]

I mean, if your character is already the 'face', may as well keep stacking it. Only a few skills are per character, the rest you only need one character each to specialize in really.

[Godwin]

Are there abilities unlocked by skills? I noticed on lvl 2 I suddenly got a persuasion skill to demoralize enemies (on that topic, what does demoralize mean?).

If so, at what levels are they unlocked?

tyvm

[11kCommunicator]

Trying to build a demoralize thug, it gives shaken -2 to attack rolls, and thug can turn it into fear - but I started without demoralize, and unsure when I'll get it(lvl 1 char with 6 persuasion)

Edit: got it level 2 - still wierd that the tower shield fighter had it level 1 without having even skilled persuatsion

[Godwin]

Hmm thug sounds interesting

[Memmo]

Max skill rank is 20 because max level is 20. However, there is no cap how high your actual skill bonus can go.

[Godwin]

But is there any point to put points in it after reaching 20 skill?

[Sima Marlin]

41 is highest check for trap I have seen so far, lv 12 at the moment.

[fluxtorrent]

The pnp kingmaker has checks in excess of DC 50 so I'd expect some inflation for this rendition.

[Sorth]

Look at it this way - if you roll a 2 +17 that’s only a 19. So you’d fail a dc 20 spot check. Sc 20 skill checks aren’t uncommon for traps.

Every point you put in it adds a 5% chance it will succeed. Of course if the dc is less then your skill check now you’re not doing anything.

The real question becomes what else are you going to point you skill points into? Why not keep it maxed. Max 3 Stars for each character and let another character deal with the Pena they don’t have.

[Kommissar K]

Originally posted by Godwin:

But is there any point to put points in it after reaching 20 skill?

DCs definitely are not capped at 20.

As for what might be the highest DC, that remains to be seen, but for 20th level play, I could easily see DC 50 checks coming up.

If some skill check is important to you, you basically should always be putting ranks into it.

[Shinno]

I saw DC 35 with a crazy nereid.

[Godwin]

Originally posted by Kommissar Klose:

Originally posted by Godwin:

But is there any point to put points in it after reaching 20 skill?

DCs definitely are not capped at 20.

As for what might be the highest DC, that remains to be seen, but for 20th level play, I could easily see DC 50 checks coming up.

If some skill check is important to you, you basically should always be putting ranks into it.

Thank you. I have no idea, so this is a good benchmark for me then.