Magus Builds

[Evilosangelo]

I saw a thread which gave some good info on making a Magus. Sadly can’t find it now. Sorry. I’m looking at rolling a Magus Eldritch Scion And I just want some ideas on how to map out my skills, feats, bloodlines etc etc.

Thanks all

[Myst]

use that "answer"button on the post that's the best so people can see it on forums

[RafaelElendil]

Originally posted by Evilosangelo:

Thanks for all the info everyone it’s been really helpful

Youre welcome, if you ever try the exact suggested build i gave i would like to read if you liked.

[Lord_WC]

Originally posted by RafaelElendil:

Oh, AND NEVER go Dragon Disciple, its a trap. If you wanna multiclass, go Fighter 5/Magus 15.

F5/M15 has 170 hp and 15 CL while DD8/S12 has 188 hp (counting the +2 CON) and 18 CL.
Due to the +4 STR I'm dubious that even as a gish fighter is a good splash - especially 5 levels. Just cast a tenser's and get full BAB, like really...

[Evilosangelo]

Originally posted by RafaelElendil:

Originally posted by Evilosangelo:

Thanks for all the info everyone it’s been really helpful

Youre welcome, if you ever try the exact suggested build i gave i would like to read if you liked.

The only thing I want to change for Roleplaying purpose more than anything is going Angel Touched. Going to get this created after work tonight

[Drade]

I was thinking of going 5 levels of fighter for my archer magus build... anyone have any good ideas for feats to pick up for him?

[Raistlin]

What is the max spell lvl a Magus can cast?

[RafaelElendil]

Originally posted by Lord_WC:

Originally posted by RafaelElendil:

Oh, AND NEVER go Dragon Disciple, its a trap. If you wanna multiclass, go Fighter 5/Magus 15.

F5/M15 has 170 hp and 15 CL while DD8/S12 has 188 hp (counting the +2 CON) and 18 CL.
Due to the +4 STR I'm dubious that even as a gish fighter is a good splash - especially 5 levels. Just cast a tenser's and get full BAB, like really...

Youre playing with 3.5 mindset, not pathfinder.

Your +4 Str will net you +2 hit/damage

5 levels of fighter(starting as a level 1 fighter, getting the last for level 17-20) will net you easier life with feats, access to weapon specialization and weapon training, with gloves of dueling you will be rocking an allmighty +4 to hit, +5 to damage and a extra attack. If you do as i say and get 1 fighter at level 1, you will also be able to wear a mithral fullplate at only level 8 (7 magus) without penalty or as just as you start act2 if you dont mind the ASF. Also DD8/S12 will net you no heavy armor.

With magus you need all the hit bonus you can get. Since you dont go to 15 with magus you will also not be able to get Bane Arcana for an extra +2/+2 and 2d6 extra damage.

DD8 is a trap, you will be weaker than even a strait magus 20.

[RafaelElendil]

Originally posted by Drade:

I was thinking of going 5 levels of fighter for my archer magus build... anyone have any good ideas for feats to pick up for him?

Trade the crane style path and add the archer feats, not much else needing to change. Trade power attack for deadly aim... nothing that different.

[RafaelElendil]

Originally posted by Raistlin:

What is the max spell lvl a Magus can cast?

6lv at level 16.

Keep in mind the Magus dont have exact the same spelllist of a wizard, but many spells are shared beteween the two.

[Caelus]

why stop at 5 fighter when you can go even farther and get all the heavy armour bonuses? lol

[RafaelElendil]

Originally posted by Caelus:

why stop at 5 fighter when you can go even farther and get all the heavy armour bonuses? lol

Because youre there for the Weapon Training. This build is an advanced build i did because this game doesnt have Myrmidarch.

The original build is for normal magus, it work very well for dragon Eldritch scion as well.

The 15 level Magus is were you get the BEST (and Last) ofensive and defensive upgrades: Bane Arcana, Maximum evolution of Eldritch Scion Draconic Heritage (+4 Nat Armor AC).

With the Fighter youre getting Weapon Training, Focus, specializaion, Greater focus and greatre specialization. That will net you +4 to hit and +5 to damage compared to a normal Magus who can only get normal specialization and has 1 less bab. You will also net a extra attack (at very low chance, but another chance to crit) and a better DC on your staggering critical saves.

This build is made to get all those +1 here and there that in the end adds to lots.

[Raistlin]

What would be your starting attributes for a Magus15/Fighter5 build?

[Bastion]

No, you need a higher dex than this to survive. A magus is a front line character and because of this you need to get ac up as much as possible. Since you start off with only light armour and perhaps the shield spell you need to up your dexterity to at least 16 IMO. if you are an eldritch psion you can choose dragon blood line for more ac buffs. However you can forgeit your intellegence a litte due to eldritch psion running from charasma casting. Like wise if you are just a magus or even a kenais, forfeit you cha in favour of intellegenc. Strength only needs to be about 14 due to the other powers you gain (spell pool mainly) and delivering spells and attacks in 1 round together. In fact i would even suggest a magus with a dueling sword or estoc and get slashin grace/fencer fury repsectivly, that way you only need to focus on dex int and con. You could even take aldori dueling master feat for a permanant +2 shield ac while you have a dueling sword meaning your limited spells can be on more damaging things.

Just somone from table top who played a magus tank, who the DM could only kill while i slept ;)

[RafaelElendil]

Originally posted by Raistlin:

What would be your starting attributes for a Magus15/Fighter5 build?

A normal Magus or Sword Saint (Human)would be:

Str 17 Dex 14 Con 14 Int 16 Wis 12 Cha 7 (Or you could Also switch Str to 18 int to 15 increasing it to 16 at level 4), starting as fighter and getting Dodge, Improved Unarmed Combat and Weapon Focus Scimitar or Toughness (again depending on personal taste on the last feat, getting Crane Style at level 3 and 3 mobility to give you +4 AC bonus for -2 to hit, a very reasonable trade that can be turned off)

An Eldritch Disciple is a lot trickier, but doable as both aasimar angelkin or human

Str 17 Dex 13 Con 14 Int 13 Wis 10 Cha 14(16 if angelkin), go draconic heritage for both perception skill and the amazing bloodline arcana, go for blue dragon (or the equivalent mettalic with electricity afinity) if human or red/gold dragon if Aasimar (the aasimar racial resistance with added fire resistance will make it resistant to all basic elemental damage) the AC you receive from thie heritage will compensate the 13 dex, and since you will be wearing full plate anyway, this will not make any difference in chapter one and be very minor in chapter two, were you can equip the mithral full plate when the character reach magus level 7(total character 8) and since it counter as medium to all effects, he will not receive arcane spell fairule any more. For feats, if youre human do as i said for normal magus, if youre aasimar, pick dodge and improved unarmed at first, crane style at 3 with 3 mobility.

Thats the basic.

[speedingdeath]

Originally posted by RafaelElendil:

Oh, AND NEVER go Dragon Disciple, its a trap. If you wanna multiclass, go Fighter 5/Magus 15.

Not true. For Eldritch Scions, the 4 levels of DD give as much bonus to attack, greater damage, greater AC, and I think even extra magic power, than 5 levels of Fighter. Fighters are often a great MC, but here DD is just better because of the synergies.