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p6kocka Sep 7, 2022 @ 5:56am
Defensive fighting (DF) question
When does it kick in? I tought that you have to activate it (click on it) and make an attack and the attack will guilt as attack with defensive fighting (+2 AC and - 4 attack rolls). But sometimes when a character starts its round and I deactivate the DF and then make an attack the attack still guilts as with DF. Sometimes when I deactivate it the attack has no DF at all.
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p6kocka Sep 7, 2022 @ 6:42am 
P.S. I ment Fighting Defensively...... Sorry
p6kocka Sep 7, 2022 @ 6:47am 
Fighting Defensively works great for me. Just....sometimes even though I deactivate it BEFORE an actual attack the attack apllies WITH it. Now how should I know I am fighting defensively?
Immortal Reaver Sep 7, 2022 @ 10:03am 
It should work like this.
You enable FD, character's first attack in round (RTwP - when character has 0.0s above their head) puts FD into effect, now it works for 6 seconds (or 1 round). There is no delay between each round of FD.

Is it TB mode? Or RTwP? In RTwP it might have something to do with animations lagging behind, game registers attack, then 0,1 second later pops up the number. Though I never had any such problem with it and I used FD this way a lot. For TB I have no idea.

Originally posted by p6kocka:
Fighting Defensively works great for me. Just....sometimes even though I deactivate it BEFORE an actual attack the attack apllies WITH it. Now how should I know I am fighting defensively?
If it is on you have shield icon near portrat of character using it. If you move curser over it it will pop up descrption of effects on currently character.
p6kocka Sep 7, 2022 @ 10:14am 
I forgot to mention it. I am playing in turn based mode
Last edited by p6kocka; Sep 7, 2022 @ 10:14am
Immortal Reaver Sep 7, 2022 @ 10:26am 
In that case I have no idea, sorry. I do not use TB so I never encountered it.
99Random Sep 7, 2022 @ 10:27am 
You de-activted it at the start of the second round, but it will not be "off" until the start of your next round.
p6kocka Sep 7, 2022 @ 10:41am 
OK. So let´s try it on this example:
1st round: I activate FD but nothing happens because I need to ATTACK somebody...
2nd round: I attack somebody and the FD applies (+2 AC and - 4 attack rolls).
3rd round: I deactivate FD and attack somebody but I´m still fighting defensively
4rd round: I attack without FD debuff now
???

P.S. What happens when I activate FD in the 4rd round again? (before an attack?)
will it kick in in this particular attack roll?
Ivas Sep 7, 2022 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by p6kocka:
OK. So let´s try it on this example:
1st round: I activate FD but nothing happens because I need to ATTACK somebody...
2nd round: I attack somebody and the FD applies (+2 AC and - 4 attack rolls).
3rd round: I deactivate FD and attack somebody but I´m still fighting defensively
4rd round: I attack without FD debuff now
???

P.S. What happens when I activate FD in the 4rd round again? (before an attack?)
will it kick in in this particular attack roll?
It should, but should and will are different things. I would not be too surprised if it bugs sometimes
p6kocka Sep 7, 2022 @ 11:14am 
OK. Thank you. I´ve got another question. Don´t want to make a new post because of it.
Is Jaethal immune against Inspire Courage and Bless buffs? Or is it because of mods?
(have Call of the wild, proper flanking and ENCOUNTERS)
Ivas Sep 7, 2022 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by p6kocka:
OK. Thank you. I´ve got another question. Don´t want to make a new post because of it.
Is Jaethal immune against Inspire Courage and Bless buffs? Or is it because of mods?
(have Call of the wild, proper flanking and ENCOUNTERS)
Don't know about mods, never used them. She shouldn't be immune to those. Maybe you have some equipment that gives the same type of bonuses? Bless is "morale bonus", Inspire Courage gives "morale bonus" to saves and "competence bonus" to attack and damage. Same types don't stack (except for dodge)
Last edited by Ivas; Sep 7, 2022 @ 12:08pm
p6kocka Sep 7, 2022 @ 12:18pm 
Ok. I have just found out it's the mod Call of the wild. It changes Jaethal to be closer to pen and paper, meaning that she won’t be affected by performances due to being undead. She gets bonus STR and DEX to compensate.
Ivas Sep 7, 2022 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by p6kocka:
Ok. I have just found out it's the mod Call of the wild. It changes Jaethal to be closer to pen and paper, meaning that she won’t be affected by performances due to being undead. She gets bonus STR and DEX to compensate.
That's strange rule... What, she can't hear performance? Or it's not inspiring her?
p6kocka Sep 7, 2022 @ 1:27pm 
Probably she doesn't need courage as emotionless undead. She is also immune against fear effects .... what would explain her beiing unaffected by such performances
Ivas Sep 7, 2022 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by p6kocka:
Probably she doesn't need courage as emotionless undead. She is also immune against fear effects .... what would explain her beiing unaffected by such performances
But she has emotions, she's not a machine
p6kocka Sep 7, 2022 @ 1:32pm 
Naaah. I've seen her...she has no feelings
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