Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Jekadu Oct 14, 2018 @ 4:43am
Bothered by decision in Linzi's questline (chapter 4 spoilers)
During Linzi's questline, you encounter one of Linzi's old bullies at school, something which upsets her greatly. You are then told that the Neutral Good outcome is to encourage her to "forgive" him and "not seek revenge". Sending him away, as she clearly wants to do, is considered Chaotic Neutral.

I do not consider this to be a satisfactory dilemma. The situation completely disregards Linzi's trauma and puts the abuser in the center instead. No matter how much he apologizes or claims to have matured, it doesn't change the fact that he caused significant harm to another person and that said person is still suffering from his bullying. By allowing him to remain in the barony (*and* give him a job) we are clearly more concerned with the welfare of the abuser than the abused.

I'd like to see the quest rewritten to be less "Stupid Good" and offer a slightly different set of options at the end. The option to let him remain should be a Whatever Neutral option, and a Good player should be able to acknowledge Linzi's trauma without having to let the man stay *and* give him a job.

Making the victim face their abuser against their will risks retraumatizing them and creates a situation where the victim can be blamed for their own abuse. Don't do this.
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SpiralRazor Oct 14, 2018 @ 10:49pm 
No, im good with this. This is still medieval fantasy, and you dont always get your safe space in a brutal world.
Shahadem Oct 14, 2018 @ 11:31pm 
Did you also complain about Marty's dad giving Biff a job in Back to the Future?

https://youtu.be/W6jyjKOPpFU

Franky Oct 14, 2018 @ 11:50pm 
Please tell me this is a joke.

If not: morality in this follows a particular alignment system, which might not 100% sync up with our enlightened, modern ways.

Linzi has been wronged yes, and is now in a position to get her revenge, if she so chooses to.
Being able to be the bigger person, grow beyond your pain and still find it in your heart to forgive the person who wrong you? That's 100% neutral good behavior. A very classic example of it even.

Virtue signalling you're an ally and you believe her and want nothing to do with her "abuser" has 0 good about it. That's very much neutral behavior mixed in with a bit of chaotic petulance "i do as i feel like it".

If you feel it's stupid good, you are free to take the other option, one chaotic neutral choice won't kill you.
Last edited by Franky; Oct 14, 2018 @ 11:53pm
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Date Posted: Oct 14, 2018 @ 4:43am
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