Magus triggering attacks of opportunity from touch spells?

[odin87654321]

Pretty new to the Pathfinder rules. But, my Eldritch Scion Magus (NOT the Archer) is triggering attacks of opportunity from auto-casting touch of fatigue (the 0-level starting spell). I thought part of the point of the Eldritch Scion Magus was they didn't trigger attacks of oppornity from touch spells. Level 4, if that matters.

I haven't played for a few days, but I don't think attacks of opportunity from touch spells were happening before?

Thanks!

[Midnight]

Is that with or without spell strike?

Regular casts of any kind using spell combat will still trigger attacks of opportunity in PnP I believe. It's the spell strike delivered ones that shouldn't. But the game doesn't really make it obvious either way so I'm not sure myself how it works atm.

[Andante]

I'm pretty sure its a bug with auto cast. Try manual casting and see if it triggers.

[Selvokaz]

do you have combat casting, read the battle log, did it make and fail his concentration check? Also the archetype has nothing to do with AoO's, the eldritch scion is basically a sorcerer gish with less spells.

[odin87654321]

Spellstrike and Spellcombat are both "active" under the abilities tab.

If I manually cast it, wouldn't that defeat the point of being able to get a melee attack AND the free spell attack each round?

[odin87654321]

Originally posted by Lettus:

do you have combat casting, read the battle log, did it make and fail his concentration check? Also the archetype has nothing to do with AoO's, the eldritch scion is basically a sorcerer gish with less spells.

My understanding was that combat casting was not necesary at all for the magus when he made touch spells with spell combat/spellstrike.

[Andante]

Originally posted by odin87654321:

Spellstrike and Spellcombat are both "active" under the abilities tab.

If I manually cast it, wouldn't that defeat the point of being able to get a melee attack AND the free spell attack each round?

manual casting works with spellstrike/spellcombat

[Selvokaz]

you're still casting in melee, it's a free action but it's not a quickened spelled, or a swift action spell, so you'd still provoke anytime those two factors aren't well a factor. Hence you still need to make concentration checks.

[Casey]

I'm seeing this. What are the rules on it, you have to pass concentration to not get hit with AOO? It's not mentioned anywhere and I don't see it in the combat log.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by Casey:

I'm seeing this. What are the rules on it, you have to pass concentration to not get hit with AOO? It's not mentioned anywhere and I don't see it in the combat log.

can I see a picture of your character sheet?

[ELVIS]

These are official Pathfinder RPG rules. If the devs changed anything for the CRPG version I wouldn't know since I don't play a magus or use Regongar regularly.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus

[Dixon Sider]

I remember talking about this with InEffect, and we came to the conclusion that it is probably a glitch. If you make a magus character in another playthrough then this wont happen. I made a magus with the same exact build as my last MC magus to test it out and this wasnt happening. I could not find out what triggers this to happen to a magus. You should not have to manually cast the spell, it should autocast for you. Are you using the respec mod by any chance Casey?

I did some trial and error, and the respec mod was the only thing I did differently, and it never happened without the mod

[Dixon Sider]

check out this post here

https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/0/1638662230379176561/

[Casey]

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

I remember talking about this with InEffect, and we came to the conclusion that it is probably a glitch. If you make a magus character in another playthrough then this wont happen. I made a magus with the same exact build as my last MC magus to test it out and this wasnt happening. I could not find out what triggers this to happen to a magus. You should not have to manually cast the spell, it should autocast for you. Are you using the respec mod by any chance Casey?

I did some trial and error, and the respec mod was the only thing I did differently, and it never happened without the mod

No mods. Did seem to happen more often from either manually using or toggling the touch skills.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by Casey:

No mods. Did seem to happen more often from either manually using or toggling the touch skills.

Is it forcing you to manually use the touch skills every time? My game wasnt letting me right click the touch skills. with the touch skill on auto, my character would require me to left click after the touch skill successfully struck the enemy. Otherwise he would stand there doing nothing at all. Is that whats happening to you?

[Gammoid]

Originally posted by odin87654321:

I thought part of the point of the Eldritch Scion Magus was they didn't trigger attacks of oppornity from touch spells.

Unless otherwise specified by an ability, casting while threatened in combat always provokes an attack of opportunity--unless you are casting defensively (toggle on the blue shield, "fighting defensively").

This is why most magus builds take the at least some of the "Crane Style" series of combat feats (on odd level ups), to reduce the penalty from fighting defensively.