How to defeat the adamantine golem in Harrim's quest?

[Austin Lu]

Haven't found any adamantine weapon yet and nothing appears to work on the thing...

[Shahadem]

Theoretically you should be able to destroy it with a single Dispel Magic because all of a golem is is an inorganic statue being animated by magic. Same with a skeleton and zombie. Vampires and Jaethals are a bit more complicated however.

I know you can't actually kill a golem with Dispel Magic but you should be able to according to the metaphysics of the game world.

[Shadenuat]

The adamantine pickaxe is in Witch Hut in chest behind dude without eyes (I think?).

I remember being disappointed with it though since it is a Piercing weapon and while it did +2d6 extra damage golem still absorbed lots of it.

So just prebuff the heck out of powerful physical damagers like Amiri or Ekin with his trusty Devourer of Metal and you should be able to wreck it.

[Shhh]

found an adamantine longsword near one of the defaced sisters, think it was the one up north, the one with two cyclopses outside a temple arguing that you can talk to, sword was outside near that temple somewhere I think, that is what I used.

[ondskapsmannen]

Where can I find the golem though? I have the quest, but don't know where to find it.

[Sudanna]

Originally posted by Shahadem:

Theoretically you should be able to destroy it with a single Dispel Magic because all of a golem is is an inorganic statue being animated by magic. Same with a skeleton and zombie. Vampires and Jaethals are a bit more complicated however.

I know you can't actually kill a golem with Dispel Magic but you should be able to according to the metaphysics of the game world.

No, Dispel Magic targets spells only. Undead and golems are created by spells, but after being created are not spells themselves.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Originally posted by Sudanna:

Originally posted by Shahadem:

Theoretically you should be able to destroy it with a single Dispel Magic because all of a golem is is an inorganic statue being animated by magic. Same with a skeleton and zombie. Vampires and Jaethals are a bit more complicated however.

I know you can't actually kill a golem with Dispel Magic but you should be able to according to the metaphysics of the game world.

No, Dispel Magic targets spells only. Undead and golems are created by spells, but after being created are not spells themselves.

This. It's the same reason you can't shut down magical weapons, armour, or gear with a dispel magic. That sort of thing takes a Disjunction spell, which is a 9th level spell (and I'm not sure if it works on constructs like a golem).

Besides; the basic construct type doesn't have any notable interaction with anti-magic effects since that same type also covers the purely-technological robots from Numeria (or, specifically, from the alien starship that crashed there a few thousand years ago) and some of the old clockwork constructs made by ancient Thassilon. Neither of those use magic so even if you did have a spell capable of stripping the magic out of a construct, it would do nothing to these robots or clockwork constructs.

[[TGC] MadGod]

Originally posted by Shahadem:

I know you can't actually kill a golem with Dispel Magic but you should be able to according to the metaphysics of the game world.

Nope. According to the rules, you need a "Golem Manual" to make a golem. That is burned and the ashes are sprinkled over the raw golem and animate it.

There is no running spell to dispel. Just as you cannot dispel other "instant" effects like fireball or flesh to stone or slay living. :) Apart from counterspelling...wont work on "sprinkling ashes" either.

[[TGC] MadGod]

Originally posted by Shadow88:

This. It's the same reason you can't shut down magical weapons, armour, or gear with a dispel magic. That sort of thing takes a Disjunction spell, which is a 9th level spell (and I'm not sure if it works on constructs like a golem).

Yes you can shut down magic items with a targeted dispel. :)

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/dispel-magic/

No, you cannot disjoin golems, they are no magical spells anymore, nor items, they are constructs. There are other spells to deal with constructs.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Originally posted by TGC MadGod:

Originally posted by Shadow88:

This. It's the same reason you can't shut down magical weapons, armour, or gear with a dispel magic. That sort of thing takes a Disjunction spell, which is a 9th level spell (and I'm not sure if it works on constructs like a golem).

Yes you can shut down magic items with a targeted dispel. :)

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/dispel-magic/

No, you cannot disjoin golems, they are no magical spells anymore, nor items, they are constructs. There are other spells to deal with constructs.

Ah. Shows how long it's been since I've had a campaign last long enough for that spell to come up.

(I mostly play forum-based games on the Paizo boards and they have a habit of dying to inactivity pretty early on).

[Slap Happy Pappy]

I killed it with ranged pewpew combined with a front line covered in blur spells

[djinnxy]

I'm not anywhere near that far in the game and the adamantine golem here is different than 3.5 and is different than 5e golems. So I looked it up. This is the pnp rules on overcoming 15 dr epic.

"from mythic adventures:
DR/Epic: A type of damage reduction, DR/epic can be
overcome only by a weapon with an enhancement bonus of +6
or greater (Pathfinder RPG Bestiary 299). Weapons with special
abilities also count as epic for the purposes of overcoming
damage reduction if the total bonus value of all of their
abilities (including the enhancement bonus) is +6 or greater.

so a +4 Holy weapon would be considered epic."

So any weapon that gives +6 or greater combined attack bonus vs. an adamantine golem. Assuming it's neutral that would be a +4 weapon with bane.

There is also another rule which makes it appear as though a +2 or greater adamantine weapon will overcome epic dr 15. I'm not sure exactly how it applies here but I'm sure it's something close to some combinition of these rules.

Edit: I would imagine also the disintegrate spell works here?? As would summoning a rust monster which I don't think is possible in this game. Anything along those lines?

[Mr.Drow]

There was an adamantine sword called Rageclaw? in city of hollow eyes, +2 with furious enchant. Also since they aren't immune to sneak attack you can overcome the dr with Nok-Nok now that weapon dex damage is fixed. Just use displacement and summons to stall others. When I did the quest they came at me 2 at a time since I didn't charge in and just backed up slightly for better positioning. If you are talking the ones outside you can use an archer to get one at a time, again sneak attack goes through.

If you use Octavia with telekinetic fist it will also sneak attack, Good luck.

[Jdr]

Jubilost explosive bomb deal damage to golem.

[Cloudhunter]

Originally posted by Jdr:

Jubilost explosive bomb deal damage to golem.

that, and they do not have so much protection against water elementars. i normally conjour a lot of them against golems. they do the job for me.

[Austin Lu]

Originally posted by Cloudhunter:

Originally posted by Jdr:

Jubilost explosive bomb deal damage to golem.

that, and they do not have so much protection against water elementars. i normally conjour a lot of them against golems. they do the job for me.

Yea I've been doing this too