Best weapons on fixed loot system?

[djinnxy]

In an effort to not get pigeon holed into using a masterwork weapon till the end of the game I'd like to come up with a comprehensive list of good weapons to specialize in. If there's any randomization i.e. on level up in shops save scumming could work. Is that possible?

If randomized weapons isn't a thing list your best finds below. Thanks!

[Neunmalklug]

2 awsome kukri +4, one with 2d6 ice, the other 2d6 fire. both found durin noknok quest

[UR|Dialetheia]

Bastard swords, glaives, scimitars, longbows, dueling swords, kukris and rapiers are safe choices at the very least, though it varies how much you need to endure using a masterwork until you find an upgrade.

[Sotanaht]

There's a REALLY good Scimitar in Giggling Hills, near the southwest corner of the map "Thundering Claw of the Bear God". It's designed for a druid using wildshape, but it's absolutely amazing for anyone with a pet, or even just anyone who likes to crit a lot (5d6 bonus damage on crit, on top of the existing double 1d6 bonuses)

I haven't found any good Kukri's since the goblin fort, but a pair of +1, +1d6 fire/cold (one each) and Keen on both is good enough for my Rogue. I've found several "better" daggers since then, but I'm still using the kukris anyway. Anyway both Dagger and Kukri knife rogues are viable, it's hard to say which is actually better in the long run.

Not a weapon, but there's an amazing monk robe for LG monks only in the barbarian tomb (there's also an evil version somewhere else with damage instead of armor). Somewhere there's also an Agile fist+3 amulet, granting both dex-damage boosts and +3 attack/damage on the same item. There are also gloves with damage boosts that stack. Point is that Unarmed Monks are very well catered to.

I have yet to find a particularly good Falchion or Falcata. If they existed, they would be two of the best candidates for strength-crit builds outside of the above mentioned scimitar. Unfortunately aside from the raw +4 falchion and a rather average early-mid game Falcata I haven't found anything of note there.

Bastard Swords make a great showing, probably because Amiri exists. If you kill Armog you can take his sword, which is an oversized (2 handed) +5 bastard sword with a whole slew of bonuses. It comes with a massive drawback that can cause the wielder to attack allies though, so be careful with that. There's also a normal-sized unique +5 bastard sword if you complete "The Ravenous Queen" sidequest. Very nice, too bad Bastard Swords are kind of awful at a base level.

I found one unique +5 Orc Double Axe late in the game. Nothing else for the rest of the game so it's not really a weapon I'd recommend specializing in, but it's an option.

Lots of Rapiers, Estocs, and Dualing Swords around the early-mid game. Can't say I've found anything truly exceptional in any of those categories, but if you choose any of those as your main weapon you won't go without.

Longsword has a pathetic showing. In spite of being what one would expect to be the most ubiquitous weapon in the setting, I haven't found ANY notable longswords, aside from the +1 cold iron longsword that's one of the earliest cold iron weapons you can reliably get.

In terms of ranged weapons, there are some moderate +1-with-bonus weapons for both Longbows and Heavy Crossbows, but nothing exceptional. I haven't found any noteworthy Light Crossbows. I did find one Shortbow that looked interesting, but I wouldn't really recommend that as a weapon class.

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by Neunmalklug:

2 awsome kukri +4, one with 2d6 ice, the other 2d6 fire. both found durin noknok quest

Of course it would be during his quest... I failed his quest and hated doing anything with him, seems my rogue will forever be using the ones from the goblin fort instead. Oh well, it's not like an extra 1d6+3 damage makes any difference on a rogue that already does 7d8 sneak attacks.

[UR|Dialetheia]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

There's a REALLY good Scimitar in Giggling Hills, near the southwest corner of the map "Thundering Claw of the Bear God". It's designed for a druid using wildshape, but it's absolutely amazing for anyone with a pet, or even just anyone who likes to crit a lot (5d6 bonus damage on crit, on top of the existing double 1d6 bonuses)

Also hilarious on Reg for about 10 rounds each day, due to grow claws. And the call lightning procs both his bloodline buff and the buff from the cape he gets from his quest.

I haven't found any good Kukri's since the goblin fort, but a pair of +1, +1d6 fire/cold (one each) and Keen on both is good enough for my Rogue. I've found several "better" daggers since then, but I'm still using the kukris anyway. Anyway both Dagger and Kukri knife rogues are viable, it's hard to say which is actually better in the long run.

There are at least 2 really decent daggers(some might be from artisans). Also, there's a decent kukri hidden in the Shrine of Lamashtu

I have yet to find a particularly good Falchion or Falcata. If they existed, they would be two of the best candidates for strength-crit builds outside of the above mentioned scimitar. Unfortunately aside from the raw +4 falchion and a rather average early-mid game Falcata I haven't found anything of note there.

The Tulip frequently brings falcatas and fauchards, along with sais and kamas. Some of them are fairly good.

Longsword has a pathetic showing. In spite of being what one would expect to be the most ubiquitous weapon in the setting, I haven't found ANY notable longswords, aside from the +1 cold iron longsword that's one of the earliest cold iron weapons you can reliably get.

Well, there's the Rageclaw.

In terms of ranged weapons, there are some moderate +1-with-bonus weapons for both Longbows and Heavy Crossbows, but nothing exceptional. I haven't found any noteworthy Light Crossbows. I did find one Shortbow that looked interesting, but I wouldn't really recommend that as a weapon class.

The Devourer of Metal is a composite longbow that can be found fairly early and is basically a ranged Amiri's sword with +2d6 acid damage on top.

[Sotanaht]

Can you tell me where to find The Devourer of Metal specifically? I never encountered it, but my main character is longbow-specialized.

[Who?]

In troll lair, a secret room right to the kobold artist

[UR|Dialetheia]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Can you tell me where to find The Devourer of Metal specifically? I never encountered it, but my main character is longbow-specialized.

First level of troll lair, near the western stair down, there's a room with a trapped secret floor panel. The bow is there.

[Edrick1976]

I dont remmember where they are (troll lair I think) but their are some really good heavy maces out their. ONe does 2D6 and give you freedom of movement.