Deflect Arrows a good choice for melee sorcecer/monk?

[mbradtke]

I wonder if i should take this feat or not. It sounds powerful but it is only useful against arrows i guess? so depends a lot on the encounter... sorcecer has low hitpoints though... but my AC is pretty good... chr bonus, mage armor, shield spell, reduce person etc.... and i have access to blur and mirror image but there are always nat 20's... i'm really not sure if it is good or not, also i wonder if this feat works while shapeshifted with natural weapons... f.e in dragon form, feat says u need a free hand but u know.... pathfinder feat descriptions are bit... inaccurate... lol and my hands are still free while shapeshifted... so? xD

[99Random]

I never take that because i always run Protection from Arrows Communal.
https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Protection_from_Arrows,_Communal

It "only" removes up to 100 points of damage per attack for an hour. This covers about 90%+ of all arrow attacks in the game for the whole party. Considering how much the Wild Hunt LOVES arrows it is pretty much mandatory anyway

[Zzyl_tsw]

from memory, it only blocks one arrows per round.
So it can be usefull at low level, but when you are assailled by arrows showers at higher level, it is not so good

[mbradtke]

Originally posted by 99Random:

I never take that because i always run Protection from Arrows Communal.
https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Protection_from_Arrows,_Communal

It "only" removes up to 100 points of damage per attack for an hour. This covers about 90%+ of all arrow attacks in the game for the whole party. Considering how much the Wild Hunt LOVES arrows it is pretty much mandatory anyway

i've heard it doesn't block damage from magical (+1 +) weapons though?... I've also heard it doesn't work reliable but i didn't test it myself yet...

[mbradtke]

Originally posted by Zzyl_tsw:

from memory, it only blocks one arrows per round.
So it can be usefull at low level, but when you are assailled by arrows showers at higher level, it is not so good

hmmm... but woudn't it be even more useful with more attacks? = more chances u get hit and it procs, i see it being useful at low levels if u have low AC, if u have high AC u prolly woud not need it anyways?

[99Random]

Originally posted by Zzyl_tsw:

from memory, it only blocks one arrows per round.
So it can be usefull at low level, but when you are assailled by arrows showers at higher level, it is not so good

I believe so, but at lower levels you are nearly immune since most enemies do not fire multiple shots and late game it alleviates enough damage to give you time to smack them down.

Really always the eternal question with feats. Is this better than other feats that help me kill faster or protect me better?

[Baldurs_Gate_2]

Originally posted by Zzyl_tsw:

from memory, it only blocks one arrows per round.

Seems pretty useless to me.

[Nachtmeister]

Originally posted by Zzyl_tsw:

from memory, it only blocks one arrows per round.

Not blocking one arrow, but negating one arrow hit. That is a significant difference.

And "Protection from Arrows" doesnt help against magical arrows, which should be pretty much all the arrows from mid-level on up. Its DR is only DR/magic.

[mbradtke]

not only that, it seems there is a bug that counts masterwork bows etc. as magic weapons too... just search for it in forum, maybe they fixed it but i doubt it

[Endarire]

You're better off skipping Deflect Arrows and using spells like stoneskin, displacement, and mirror image which are more general.

[mbradtke]

true but having both would be a bonus still i guess?! i'm not sure at the current /:
I would like to use transform spells on my sorcecer i think, so it would come down to whether deflect arrows works while shapeshifted or not, i dont know it it works... feat say need a free hand but would natural weapons still count as a free hand? and maybe it doesnt matter and just works anyways, just like with cran wing feats....
so i can cast my buffs and then shapeshift into something funny lol and repeat when needed