Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Stealthunter Dec 14, 2021 @ 1:02pm
What to do with Nok Nok
so I'v read many posts regarding the whole ordeal, since the options are get him the party or kill him, but killing him is somehow chaotic evil. I'm currently playing a LG inquisitor, so it feels like I should kill him because hes a cultist of Lamashtu,and the fact that he is CE, I probably won't bring him anywhere since my party is pretty much set and I'v been using the same characters from start to finish. Should I kill him or recurit him?
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Frostfeather Dec 14, 2021 @ 1:21pm 
Isn't killing him an option for Lawful Good? It's been a while since I've done LG but I thought it was.

Anyway, I always kill him regardless of my alignment because he annoys me, lol. You can step outside your alignment occasionally without consequence.
Last edited by Frostfeather; Dec 14, 2021 @ 1:21pm
Old Ben Dec 14, 2021 @ 1:24pm 
I take him, but never use him, because it completes an achievement for having all companions.
Last edited by Old Ben; Dec 14, 2021 @ 1:24pm
99Random Dec 14, 2021 @ 3:21pm 
I much prefer Nok-Nok to Tristain and his do-gooder pablum. Nok-Nok getting 8 attacks per round is a great Mirror Image killer and his comments make me smile.
Corridian Dec 14, 2021 @ 8:03pm 
Serve as his SIDE KICK!
Screw Tristain. Not literally as he is a puke and the voice actor sucks. Literally kill the mother ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Every game, every time.
Nok Nok is a god!
All Hail Nok Nok
While it may seem that I am kidding, I assure you I am not.
~ Fabulous ~ Dec 14, 2021 @ 8:23pm 
making him a hero, Tristan is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Baldurs_Gate_2 Dec 14, 2021 @ 10:45pm 
Take him but ignore him. You don't have to do any quests with your companions, they will still stay with you. The only one i would consider "save" is Tristian because of the advisor role if you don't have the two npcs for it.
Ilja Dec 14, 2021 @ 10:50pm 
I am also playing LG character and decided to bring Nok Nok with me. He is a cool guy.

LG doesn't mean that you should not scheme and calculate. That is fine, just as long it remains withing laws and aims for better outcome. In this point of view, making Nok Nok a hero happens withing laws of goblin society and is probably better outcome than letting some real evil mastermind to run goblins living in your area.

Also, he can be a real force of nature, when backing Val and getting backed by Tristian. I haven't found much use for Amiri lately, when Nok Nok runs the front with Val and Okbo.
Icedfate Dec 15, 2021 @ 9:44am 
nok nok is marked as chaotic evil, but he's not really evil. he sincerely wants to become a hero, but because goblins are inherently chaotic evil, that's the only thing he knows. it leads to comical dialogues where he doesn't understand things and tries to apply goblin logic to solve problems.
alignment is about a character's motivations and goals personal outlook on life and how they choose to approach situations.

the reason i say this is because of the killing him is "evil". it's possible that killing him might be considered an evil act, because you are killing a "good" creature.
like, it's confusing because the game is calling him evil but maybe it's like your character where you have the alignment wheel and it has your "alignment" but then it has that little circle that wanders towards the other aligments based on your actions.
maybe nok nok little circle is still in the chaotic evil section but it's drifted all the way to the borderline of neutrality because he wants to be "good" and you just don't see it. and chaotic evil is so far removed from all the good alignments, that it takes quite a bit more work to wander over there.

he's a companion so technically you're not "supposed" to kill him. .even though you "can".
he wants to be good, so there is no conflict if a good character has him in the party.

there are basically 2 options of what to do with him . .besides killing him.
you can turn him into a hero, or a jester.
a good main character will likely want to make him into a hero, so praising him and being supportive and guiding him towards the path of goodness and self reliance will accomplish that goal.

an evil main character might have no desire to make him into a hero and has the option to beat down his self esteem and ridicule him so that he becomes more foolish and more of a comic relief than he already is, and he becomes a jester. .

both are legit options and both will achieve a desirable endgame result where he survives

i don't have the heart to turn him into a jester because the game does a good job of making you feel really bad for him whenever you beat him down. .in a way it kind if psychologically punishes you in that department, it lets you do it, but it makes sure you know you are being a ♥♥♥♥.
Last edited by Icedfate; Dec 15, 2021 @ 9:49am
Stealthunter Dec 15, 2021 @ 10:37am 
Alright guys, thanks for your input, I'v made my mind to let Nok Nok join my party, I'll maybe replace Amiri in my party since I currently have Valerie as MT,Harrim as secondary tank and healer, Amiri ,Octavia for mage stuff, Linzi for buffs and I'm a scared Huntsmen that is buffs/heals. For those that don't like Tristian I don't even interact with him since Harrim can tank and heal,so hes never been in my party besides his companion quest.
Nachtmeister Dec 15, 2021 @ 3:39pm 
Power-Gamer move: Take him in and use his great DPSing abilities to good effect.

For most of my characters the choice is clear that you kill the random goblin, just like all the other monsters, even though some are capable of speech. It doesnt really matter what lies or delusions he babbles forth.
Icedfate Dec 15, 2021 @ 5:02pm 
tristian is a better healer than harrim, but harrim has better AC. harrim never gets as good as valerie in the weapons and armor department , but in my previous playthrough, i gave harrim 1 level in tower shield specialist and 19 cleric and gave both him and val sheild wall, and he was able to stand up there next to her, with a respectable 48 AC to her 54. i specialized him in flails there is an endgame flail that inflicts stacking debuffs on the enemy -1 AC every time you hit with it i was playing on challenging, dunno if that would work on unfair.

also tristian goes blind later from plot reasons, which gives him a permanent 50% chance to miss all attacks, so he pretty worthless with a weapon, but i guess that's not what you use him for. he's there for channeling, and animate deads and fire spells and buffs
i used tristian up until the secret chapter then swapped him out for harrim

current playthrough, i followed a build guide to turn harrim into empyrean sorcerer/cleric/mystic theurge and i dunno. he's not wearing armor, but at level 17 he can cast animate dead about 35 times a day, boneshaker about 25 times, has access to freedom of movement , true sight, death ward. and 3 heal spells. no top tier magics but he's a kind of a swiss army knife in a way.

but i digressed, we were talking about nok nok.
on bith my plays, i leveled nok nok to 10 in rogue for the ability that drains strength on every sneak attack. that is just too good IMO and i'm confused why the guide i read on gog multis him away from rogue before he gets to level 10. . . last one i loosely followed that guide that says to multi him into invulnerable rager at level 8, but i waited until levle 11 to do it.

this playthrough , i multied him into regular fighter.
Last edited by Icedfate; Dec 15, 2021 @ 5:08pm
Ilja Dec 15, 2021 @ 8:27pm 
Originally posted by Icedfate:
tristian is a better healer than harrim, but harrim has better AC. harrim never gets as good as valerie in the weapons and armor department ,

I gave Harrim focuses on Necromancy for this run. That hit the spot.
He is more useful now than he ever were as a healer, or tank.
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Date Posted: Dec 14, 2021 @ 1:02pm
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