Need help with spider swarm

[DirewolfTH]

I've been reading a couple threads on this but still I'm having trouble. I even restarted as a wizard but 1) my fire cone spell couldn't kill it 2) I only had 3 cast and 3) my characters also kept missing target with their acid flask. Torches also don't seem to be very effective.

So far I've been tackling this at level 2-3... is there any way I can tackle them without needing to adjust difficulty into the lowest low? Should I wait until I get 1 or 2 more caster companions? Can I just proceed with the main quest and forget about this until much later?

[Furry Wrecking Crew]

Yes, just forget about it until later. There's no reason to do it between levels 1-5, that's just when you get the quest. Typical CRPG.

[Jaggid Edje]

I had taken Valerie into Kinetic knight at level 2 and she cleaned them up for me with her flaming sword while the rest of the party fought the big spiders.

The Acid cantrip also works, but it takes several hits.

[jsaving]

Strategy will help with swarms. Make sure you have somebody who can cast spells like burning hands or sound burst that work on swarms; don't throw into melee unless you have the precise shot feat; don't throw at all unless you have a solid dexterity; don't use torches unless you know you can survive numerous attacks.

If I didn't have any casters and hadn't taken the precise shot feat on any of my characters, I wouldn't hesitate to postpone that area for a level or two.

[Zzyl_tsw]

Hello,

1) you can and should probably do it later. Except if you want a challenge (or like getting poisonned)
2) Have a full team (6 people)
3) i recommend to be at least lvl 3
4) Do not consider you will kill the swarm in one attack (at least not at level 2-3), so you need several attacks
5) If you can , cast delay poison (single target as the communal is a lvl 3 spell) on your front liners (you will thank me for this if you do not like resting for days/week to remove poison). you need a priest lvl 3.
6) If you have an "archer" (with corresponding feat), give him/her the bomb

[jonnin]

worst case scenario is you can kill them with the torches all new characters start with. Give one to each of your best melee fighters and use that.
Kinetic class is probably the most effective, and its a potent class that you may consider grabbing a $500 merc for your team before leveling up the first time at the trading post. The class is effective against other stuff too, not just the one enemy type :P

[Songbird]

You will get a caster early into the first act, wait until you get them and then return to the cave to kill the swarmers. Attack them with their ability "Shocking Grasp" and you will onehit the swarmers. (on normal atleast)

[SIT_ROM.exe]

Why is it literally impossible to deal damage to swarms with conventional weapons to begin with?
Say you are Grug and you have a big club. Per successful wild flail, you *are* going to smush a few spiders/rats/whatevers out of the two dozen trying to crawl beneath your skin. The swarm won't disperse from that, sure, but it should at very least equate to one or two points of damage.

[NamelessOne]

Originally posted by SIT_ROM.exe:

Why is it literally impossible to deal damage to swarms with conventional weapons to begin with?
Say you are Grug and you have a big club. Per successful wild flail, you *are* going to smush a few spiders/rats/whatevers out of the two dozen trying to crawl beneath your skin. The swarm won't disperse from that, sure, but it should at very least equate to one or two points of damage.

Swarms are composed of tens of thousands of individual bugs. Your arrow killed 2, and your club smashed 10. That doesn't even come close to 1 hp. Kill it with fire, chemicals, or poison clouds.

[SIT_ROM.exe]

Originally posted by NamelessOne:

Swarms are composed of tens of thousands of individual bugs.

B u l l s h i t.

[.//slayer]

Originally posted by SIT_ROM.exe:

Originally posted by NamelessOne:

Swarms are composed of tens of thousands of individual bugs.

B u l l s h i t.

https://roll20.net/compendium/pathfinder/Swarm#content

Spiders are considered Diminutive non-flying creatures, meaning that a swarm consists of 1500 spiders. You are not killing them with a club without being overwhelmed.

[Swordman_Red]

Originally posted by SIT_ROM.exe:

Originally posted by NamelessOne:

Swarms are composed of tens of thousands of individual bugs.

B u l l s h i t.

I mean one could supposedly fall to the ground and roll around crushing whole lot of them, but then again, you can't shield bash with buckler! Cause it's "too small and light"! Now that's real bull.
But that's rules i guess.