Coup de grace is not working

[Swordman_Red]

Just wanted to ask if it is a thing after last applied update. Cannot use coup de grace with any character on any enemy, in TB or RTwP either. The only mods i have are No history/Inventory cleaner.

[Jaggid Edje]

Situations where it's applicable in the game are limited based on what I've read.
I can confirm it is working, as I just had an encounter where I snuck up on some sleeping bandits yesterday and I used it there successfully.

[Furry Wrecking Crew]

Anytime I've tried to use it even when the description implies I should be able to, it just has the X. I gave up trying to figure out what rare set of circumstances allow it to work.

[Martialis]

One odd situation where it works is if you down an enemy that can only be killed by cold iron, and you don't happen to be carrying that type of weapon. It is a fortitude check, so it might take several tries, but eventually they can be killed using the ability.

[InEffect]

it depends on who you use it on. The target needs to be fully incapacitated. Sleeping, paralyzed, downed, etc. Can't just knock em down and expect to coup de grace to work. It's not what it's for.

[LArc7thHeaven]

Stupid mechanic in game but i dunno in tabletop. Only time you can use it is when you sneak up at the sleeping bandits. other than that i dunno

[karinundmaedels]

Yea, most of the time you only coup-de-grace when the enemy lies before you dying, but not dying because of regeneration.

[Swordman_Red]

Originally posted by InEffect:

it depends on who you use it on. The target needs to be fully incapacitated. Sleeping, paralyzed, downed, etc. Can't just knock em down and expect to coup de grace to work. It's not what it's for.

Does hideous laughter counts?

[Mork]

Originally posted by Swordman_Red:

Originally posted by InEffect:

it depends on who you use it on. The target needs to be fully incapacitated. Sleeping, paralyzed, downed, etc. Can't just knock em down and expect to coup de grace to work. It's not what it's for.

Does hideous laughter counts?

I don't think so

Hideous Laughter:

This spell afflicts the subject with uncontrollable laughter. It collapses into gales of manic laughter, falling prone. The subject can take no actions while laughing, but is not considered helpless. After the spell ends, it can act normally. On the creature’s next turn, it may attempt a new saving throw to end the effect. This is a full round action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. If this save is successful, the effect ends. If not, the creature continues laughing for the entire duration.

[Swordman_Red]

Originally posted by Mork:

Originally posted by Swordman_Red:

Does hideous laughter counts?

I don't think so

Hideous Laughter:

This spell afflicts the subject with uncontrollable laughter. It collapses into gales of manic laughter, falling prone. The subject can take no actions while laughing, but is not considered helpless. After the spell ends, it can act normally. On the creature’s next turn, it may attempt a new saving throw to end the effect. This is a full round action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. If this save is successful, the effect ends. If not, the creature continues laughing for the entire duration.

I see, thanks, i did not read that description carefully enough, i guess.
Thanks for all the other answers as well, i think i get how exactly it works now.

[Tikky Lightmaker]

Ah, i see. That's why i had such a hard time. I'm guessing getting knocked down by a leopard pet doesn't make a target helpless, either.

[BCGaius]

It is a very strange addition to the game. It does technically exist in the tabletop rules, hence why they put it in the game, but even in tabletop its use is extremely rare and just a formal case resolution of "Hey DM, I want to slit the guy's throat while he's sleeping, but my dagger only does 1d4 damage. Shouldn't it just instantly kill him?"

It's an awkward solution to an awkward tabletop problem, and basically just a glorified house rule that sees little practical use in any sensibly-run tabletop game. Then again, this is the game that gives us 40 STR wizard owlbears with Shield+Displacement+Mirror Image and Uncanny Dodge+Evasion For No Particular Reason Besides ♥♥♥♥ You Player, Your Abilities Arbitrarily Don't Work On My Wankmonster.

[mbradtke]

i use coup de grace a lot with hold person spell, cleric casts hold person on any humanoid-> coup de grace = win