Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

View Stats:
Havoc Jul 27, 2021 @ 1:56pm
Main character doesn't get surprise round from time to time in turnbased.
So many times I just see the turn order skip my main characters turn in surprise rounds when playing turn based, but none of the others characters? It happens in like 1 out of 3 combats.

Am I missing something? I see no debuffs or anything that would make him unable to act. Happened in all my 3 campaigns so far.
< >
Showing 1-4 of 4 comments
Mork Jul 27, 2021 @ 3:07pm 
If i remember well, it was happening to me when the character(s) was doing a action to trigger battle.

Selecting the group + right clicking was the best method to start combat unless i was ready to ''delay'' a character action, like a archer, by making him start combat.
Last edited by Mork; Jul 27, 2021 @ 3:56pm
Frostfeather Jul 27, 2021 @ 6:17pm 
Yeah, it's probably the fact that you're starting combat with that character and whatever they did to do so *is* their surprise round action.

For a better result, have as many characters as possible do the same thing to start combat, and only the character that hit first will "lose" their surprise round turn. For example, have multiple characters shoot with the same ranged weapon (so it has the same animation speed and they all go off at once) or a similar spell.

If you get good at the timing, you can have spells/attacks of different speeds all go off at once, but it may take some practice and experimentation to get it down. Remember that spells with travel time like Fireball are good candidates because you can have some in the air when you start combat and they'll still go off without affecting the casters' surprise round.
Havoc Jul 28, 2021 @ 2:10am 
I always start combat by lining them up properly and then engaging with either Ekundayo or Linzi, not my main characters since they've always been melee in a flanking role. Sometimes Ekun fire one shot like suprise rounds should work, sometimes several like full action even though it's a surprise round. Maybe that's what bugs it... but that still doesn't explain why the main character is the one that gets 'punished'.
Frostfeather Jul 28, 2021 @ 9:20am 
Hm now that you mention it, I've had ranged Slayers get their full attack when starting combat with an attack. It might prevent someone else from acting during the surprise round... but I don't think I ever noticed because everything dies so fast anyway. I'll have to pay more attention to it in the future.
< >
Showing 1-4 of 4 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Jul 27, 2021 @ 1:56pm
Posts: 4