How do you roll a "Eldritch Knight" or those other greyed out classes?

[Tragic]

How do you roll a "Eldritch Knight" or those other greyed out classes?

Do you roll a warrior / Aldori Defender or something and then you choose Eldritch Knight latter?

I do not get how these greyed out classes work?

[Njorl]

You create another class first, then develop your character to meet the requirements of the other class. For an eldritch knight, you might start as a wizard and progress until you get 3rd level spells, then take a fighter level. This would give you most or all of the requirements.

In other types of games based on Dungeons and Dragons*, some of these types of classes were powerful. In Pathfinder Kingmaker, they aren't that interesting.

*In case you didn't know, Pathfinder is almost he same thing as D&D version 3.5.

[Bibibobaba]

Those are prestige class. Hover your mouse over them to see the prerequisite you need. In red mean you dont have it yet and green mean you have met the prerequisite. Eldrich Knight are not hard to make.
It have two kind of spell in D&D Arcane and Divine. Arcane magic are obtain with class like Wizard, BArd, Sorcerer. Divine it with Cleric, Ranger, Druid. Divine are power given by the god themselves and Arcane are more like drained from a big cosmic energy flux.
Prestige class are mostly made to level 2 class in the same time or empower one with some custom style. It dont gave all the benefit of the original class but it can be a little more stronger to have prestige class. Normally they have a maximum of ten level available in a given prestige class.
Eldricth Knight are intended to use with some level of fighter and arcane class. But you can still take it with just an Arcane class if you choose the Martial weapon feats.
Arcane Trickster are similar it made for rogue and wizard
Mystic theurge are mean for Divine and Arcane mix.
The Dragon Disciple, Duelist and Stalward Defender are focused on enhance only one class .
Aldori Defender are mostly made for the Aldori Defender Archetype.
D&D 3.5 have over hundred of prestige class and PAthfinder it based on that with the free license D&20 so prestige class are numerous. In theory any Dm with some imagination can create one.
Archetype are some sort of prestige class in fact.

[Tragic]

Originally posted by Njorl:

You create another class first, then develop your character to meet the requirements of the other class. For an eldritch knight, you might start as a wizard and progress until you get 3rd level spells, then take a fighter level. This would give you most or all of the requirements.

So if I went fighter I could then learn the spells latter and become a eldritch knight?

[Mork]

You need to fill the prerequisite to unlock the prestige class eldritch knight
- Proficiency with martial weapons
- Ability to cast 3rd level Arcane spells

For example
5 level of wizard (3rd level arcane spells) + the feat proficiency martial weapon

Wizard, sorcerer, bard, eldritch scoundrel rogue, magus... can all potentially unlock the ''3rd level arcane spells'' prerequisite.

[Tragic]

I still do not get it.. I can choose fighter... and then latter somehow learn spells to unlock the spells and then switch to the other class?

[Bibibobaba]

IF you are new to D&D mechanic I will really not suggest to aim for a prestige class. You need to need to learn the base and Fighter it the best class for that.
Fighter cant learn spell you will need to choose another caster class when you level up. Any arcane casting class will do as @Mork list them.

[Nariel]

Unlike DnD 5e where you could be a Eldrich Knight as a sub class just with 3 levels in Fighter, in Pathfinder Kingmaker you need to have at least 3 levels in a Arcane class to be a Eldrich Knight

For example: Ranger (1) /Sorcerer (5), Fighter (1)/Wizard (4) you also need to have the feat Proficiency with Martial Weapons

You could also be a just pure Arcane caster if you can take up the feat Proficiency with Martial Weapons at some point

[Mork]

yes 1 level of fighter technically unlock for free the ''martial weapon'' prerequisite so its not the worst thing ever but more than 1 level of fighter is certainly not ''optimal'' for a Eldritch Knight.

I could see a reason to go for 5 level of fighter but that is gonna be a very average Eldritch Knight...

[Tragic]

Guys... I know you are trying to help but you are not really answering my questions and are confusing me. Forget D&D and Pathfinder RPGs... forget about "optimal" I just want to play on RP mode and I am picking classes on how it appeals to me thematically. I do not care how efficient it is.

What I would like to know is :

1) Can become a Eldritch Knight if you START as a Aldori Defender? How, in Kingmaker cRPG do you learn spells after initial character creation?"
2) Like if how do you get the spells if you choose a fighter base class?

[vysionier]

Originally posted by Tragic:

Guys... I know you are trying to help but you are not really answering my questions and are confusing me. Forget D&D and Pathfinder RPGs... forget about "optimal" I just want to play on RP mode and I am picking classes on how it appeals to me thematically. I do not care how efficient it is.

What I would like to know is :

1) Can become a Eldritch Knight if you START as a Aldori Defender? How, in Kingmaker cRPG do you learn spells after initial character creation?"
2) Like if how do you get the spells if you choose a fighter base class?

You cannot cast spells as a base class fighter.
You need to pick an additional class which is able to cast spells on level up.
You need to level up that spell casting class until you can cast level 3 spells.
Then, on level up, you can start gaining levels in elderich knight.
Keep in mind, your casting class needs a high score in its casting attribute. Int for wizards, cha for sorcerers and bards.
If your casting stat isn’t high enough, you can’t cast the spells.

[Nariel]

You need to multiclass. If you start as a Fighter (Level 1) you need to take at least 4 levels in an Arcane class (e.g. Wizard) for level 2,3,4 & 5 so you can cast 3rd level spells. At level 6 you will then unlock Eldrich Knight class :)

[Tragic]

Right so every level I can either level up "fighter" or choose a 2nd class.. say Wizard or something... then each level I can level either fighter or wizard and eventually satisfy all the requirements of Eldritch Knight.. and then on level I can choose that option and then from now on I can level up any of those 3 classes? Fighter, Wizard or Eknight?

Is that how multi-classes work?

[Nariel]

Originally posted by Tragic:

Right so every level I can either level up "fighter" or choose a 2nd class.. say Wizard or something... then each level I can level either fighter or wizard and eventually satisfy all the requirements of Eldritch Knight.. and then on level I can choose that option and then from now on I can level up any of those 3 classes? Fighter, Wizard or Eknight?

Is that how multi-classes work?

Yes. :) At level 2 you will choose to level up in Wizard so you will then be Fighter 1, Wizard 1. At level 3 take Wizard again; Fighter 1, Wizard 2 and so on until level 6. By then you will be Fighter 1, Wizard 5.

At level 6 you can start taking levels in Eldritch Knight so you will finally be Fighter 1, Wizard 5, Eldritch Knight 1

[Tragic]

Thanks everyone.