Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Spetsnaz Sep 8, 2021 @ 11:51am
A good class for a beginner?
So, started playing this yesterday and I like it. Tho I have a problem and that is my class. I picked sorcerer as my class and don't get me wrong it is fun but feel like I am really weak. It can be that it will get a lot better in the future. Just at the moment, I get really focused on every ranged thing in the game. It is a bit sad because in the last 4 combats my MC was the first and mostly the only one to go down. I also feel my damage output is not too great a lot of times.

So, now do you all think it is best to stick with it or roll a new char now that I am still at the start? And if yes to change what class would be a good start for a new player while keeping it a bit balanced with the party. There are a lot of interesting sounding classes but just not sure what to do...

Thanks for the help!
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Dixon Sider Sep 8, 2021 @ 12:02pm 
Stick with it. This game has massive mechanical depth and sorcerer is one of the kings of that depth. The sky is the limit for you and you can do some spectacular things by thinking outside of the box.
vysionier Sep 8, 2021 @ 12:06pm 
Sorcerer is a wonderful class to start with. Just keep in mind though, you should never get close to your enemy. Unless of course, you’ve played a lot more and got used to the rules. If you insist on going into the frontline of combat, then at lvl 4 pick the spell mirror image. Have fun, and keep in mind that you can always restart of retrain.
Zalie Sep 8, 2021 @ 12:32pm 
While I agree with the previous people that Sorcerer is probaly the best class in the game I don't know if it's really a good starting class for a beginner, especially not if you are not used to these type of games. For someone beginning games like this it might be easier play a melee character like fighter or paladin, or maybe a ranged like ranger.

If you stick with sorcerer though try to stay as far away from enemies as possible. Unless you build them so that they have high AC and defensice spell you really dont want to be anywhere near enemies.
Agony_Aunt Sep 8, 2021 @ 12:46pm 
Sorc is not a good newbie class.

However, in this case, you can indeed have your cake and eat it, by playing a Sylvan sorc.

OP - if you've already reached Oleg's or have you kingdom, you can go see Anoriel and respec. No need to restart. And change from regular Sorc to Slyvan Sorc.

It gives you an animal companion. Enjoy having a meat shield to protect your sorc.
What's your party's formation, and do you utilize your melee's "charge" ability at the start of engagement? That will help with them auto targeting you. Also what /type/ of sorcerer are you? What role are you filling? Damage?

Sorcerer is one of those magic users who are growers instead of showers. That's why the game gives you an xbow at the start, and you'll need decent dexterity if you're an offensive spell user (ranged touch attacks, etc.)

Regardless, the Pathfinder elf in the inn at Oleg's and the kingdom, Anoriel, as the previous poster said, can fix the errors of your youth in this game to better optimize your class going forward. There's also mods if you swing that way.

darion-neclador Sep 8, 2021 @ 4:00pm 
I can recommend a paladin.
Archon Sep 8, 2021 @ 4:00pm 
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Dragon Master Sep 8, 2021 @ 6:20pm 
I'm currently playing a copper-dragon sorcerer with a strong focus on conjuration and augmenting my summons.

Personally, I feel if you want to have a good start, paladin, fighter or barbarian would be the easiest starting classes. Sorcerers start off relatively weak but grow incredibly powerful. With any caster it's important to know what your focus is. If you go crowd control then choose enchantment school spells that keep the enemy from hitting you so your heavy hitters like Amiri can lay in the pain while taking very little.

Or maybe you want to be a buff/debuff character. Necromancy is a great way to debuff enemies and lower their stats so they deal a lot less damage than they would, or have a lot less health than they should.
MechBFP Sep 8, 2021 @ 6:28pm 
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pi73r Sep 9, 2021 @ 1:27am 
Sorc in general is a top class and pretty straightforward so feel free to stick with it.
Last edited by pi73r; Sep 9, 2021 @ 1:31am
Spetsnaz Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:38am 
Thanks for all the answers! Will stick with it! It can be that I am sometimes a bit too close to the enemy. I just have the feeling that I really really need to watch out that I don't get targeted. Thanks all!
vysionier Sep 9, 2021 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by Spetsnaz:
Thanks for all the answers! Will stick with it! It can be that I am sometimes a bit too close to the enemy. I just have the feeling that I really really need to watch out that I don't get targeted. Thanks all!


Just remember that for casters at least, turn based mode is your best friend! There’s an option called 5 foot step that lets you cast without getting attacked.
Zzyl_tsw Sep 9, 2021 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by Spetsnaz:
Thanks for all the answers! Will stick with it! It can be that I am sometimes a bit too close to the enemy. I just have the feeling that I really really need to watch out that I don't get targeted. Thanks all!
And yeah, for basic sorcerer build, stay as far as possible from the front
PradaMeinhof Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:58am 
Good classes for beginner:
Fighter - get in and hit things, with choice of an new power thru a feat almost every level
Paladin, Barbarian - get in and hit things, with some unique combat powers
Ranger, Slayer - either hit things or shoot things, both with some unique combat powers
Rogue - Flank and hit things, or shoot things, plus debuffs and lockpicking/trap disarming.

All classes are good, but anything which has a lot of spells is an order of magnitude more complicated for a newbie, because how easy or hard things are depend a lot on what spells you choose and how you use them, which in turn means having to understand the magic system and combat mechanics pretty well.
Bean_Kommando Sep 11, 2021 @ 4:33am 
Sorc is arguably one of the strongest class, use protection from arrows or mirror image along with shield and armor spells, you don't have to learn the spells just have some potions or scrolls quick beginner tip, also have high dex for more armor class
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