Viscount Smoulderburn?

[TotaledCow.cR]

So there's a "boss" that appears in the kobold/mite area on one of the main questlines early in the game. On Easy I wiped with my whole party going at it. I tried a second time since it autosaves right before the fight... but no way to get away, and even an immediate bless for the party doesn't help prevent being feared. Even a monk can't make a will save...

So basically, what am I supposed to do here? Do I just start the entire game over? The autosave happens /after/ you sleep and trigger the fight... so there's no way to load and not trigger it... so I'm stuck in an endless loop of getting raped on Easy difficulty.

[vamirez]

Be careful - according to folks here in the community you are just bad at this game, and there's nothing wrong with this encounter.
(Seriously - you need to load the last save before you triggered that encounter. I hope you have one.)

[TotaledCow.cR]

Originally posted by vamirez:

Be careful - according to folks here in the community you are just bad at this game, and there's nothing wrong with this encounter.
(Seriously - you need to load the last save before you triggered that encounter. I hope you have one.)

I do not. I set up two autosave slots thinking that this would be sufficient, and the previous autosave slot is 20 minutes prior of gameplay. I guess I mistakenly thought it was autosaving after you left each area to the world map. I'm not sure why it autosaves only on sleeping. I manually save when I do something major typically.

The game autosaves right before the encounter... so the only recent save is immediately before a completely unavoidable encounter that it's impossible to flee from...

I probably /am/ "bad at the game", because I see CRPGs as basically interactive fantasy novels. I play on the "easy" difficulty level for a reason.

[vamirez]

Then you have unfortunately lost some progress :/ Unless someone knows how to get out of that situation.
Save early, save often applies here. You can quicksave with F5, and it keeps three quicksaves iirc. Just hit F5 after each successful battle or something like that, and keep manual saves as before. Would be my suggestion.

[vamirez]

That jab wasn't aimed at you at all btw. Everyone should play as they want :) And this encounter should not happen this way without a warning...

[Mork]

It's a trap...

Since you already playing on easy (no difficulty achievement can be obtain), reduce the difficulty to a very minimum, custom it if needed and beat him.

But basically to beat will'o wisp and i'm pretty sure the viscount is one, you need to
- Target his touch AC with something like bombs
- Achieve a extremely high attack bonus with buffs / feats. For example and at that level, a Jaethal with true strike can kill him.
- Magic missile, but it's not a very viable method and some will'o wisp will cast shield.
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[TotaledCow.cR]

Originally posted by Mork:

It's a trap...

Since you already playing on easy (no difficulty achievement can be obtain), reduce the difficulty to a very minimum, custom it if needed and beat him.

But basically to beat will'o wisp and i'm pretty sure the viscount is one, you need to
- Target his touch AC with something like bombs
- Achieve a extremely high attack bonus with buffs / feats. For example and at that level, a Jaethal with true strike can kill him.
- Magic missile, but it's not a very viable method and some will'o wisp will cast shield.
...

The enemy damage slider only goes to 0.2. I don't have anyone in my party with UMD, so I can't use the wand of magic missile I've had for some time, so into the chest at Oleg's it went. I created a Lawful Evil Scalefist Monk as my main character, I like monks. I have Jaethal, Valerie, and Amari in my party.

My main problem is even a Monk w/ Bless fails the will save. Everyone gets hit with Fear immediately usually except Jaethal.

[Aldain]

Sadly that is one of those "Haha get rekt n00b" things that are thrown in a game purely as schmuck bait.

If you can't reload an older save then the only other option is restarting, just don't bother with him honestly, he isn't even worth going back to later unless you're feeling vengeful.

[jsaving]

This is a really tough encounter at low levels, especially if you haven't encountered wisps before and aren't familiar with the tactics needed to defeat them.

The intent is that you would see corpses around an inexplicably inviting campsite, deduce from those contextual clues that it's a honeytrap, and then act on your deduction by shying away from the campfire. Essentially, clicking on the campfire amounts to failing the quest which then causes the honeytrap-setter to appear and attack. And because he's managed to dispatch a fair number of adventuring parties before you, it stands to reason he'd be an unusually challenging foe.

But it's a shame the auto-save doesn't happen before resting.

[Mork]

Maybe Steam Cloud has the auto-save when you entered Old Sycamore ?
https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorage

[TotaledCow.cR]

Well, on a custom difficulty level and using basically all of my potions and throwables I was able to defeat him with only losing 2 party members, but since I had set everything to the easiest possible settings they got revived upon the battle ending.

[Immortal Reaver]

For these bosses I use Jaethal that is immune to most thing. For this Jaethal Resist Electricity(Scroll) + Healing Judgment can solo this boss on any difficulty.

[Hasefrexx]

You need spells that reduce elemental damage at any time in the game (for this encounter you must select electric damage). You also want something to resist or delay poison any time. That will spare a lot of frustration throughout the game.

[Dixon Sider]

Use this as a lesson learned. Proper save game management is a factor in this game. You need to use the save feature efficiently and effectively. If you are not careful you can brick a save at any time. Just make sure you are careful with saves and you are paying attention (like not resting at a campfire surrounded by corpses)

This game is very ahead of its time on that regard. Owlcat really blew everything else out of the water in so many ways. Most legendary adventure ever.

[vamirez]

"This game is very ahead of its time on that regard."

LOL

[Immortal Reaver]

I agree a there are a lot of encounters that have some kind of warning (or high skill check), a lot of people find it and their thoughts from action "RPGs" dictate that there is no way devs would put high level optional enemies in area that is for low level characters, they are sure that they always have necessary tools to defeat everything from the moment they can encounter it. Or ignore warnings entirely.