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thelebk Feb 17, 2020 @ 11:46am
PKM Prismatic Spray Implementation
I am having trouble understanding how PKM is implementing the spell Prismatic Spray Spell. The issue is salient, as level 30+ Tenebrous Depths are filled with packs of Golden Golems who SPAM prismatic spray every couple of rounds. I have noticed that level 20 melee tanks, who are fighting these golems hand to hand, are regularly instant dying (full HP 200+ to zero instantly) after a failed "Will" saving throw.

This is not possible according to the Pathfinder Core Rule Book (2nd edition) description of the prismatic spray spell. See page 360. Only the Indigo and violet rays force a Will save, and failure results in the confused or slowed conditions respectively. There is NO RAY in prismatic spray which is save or die. If there was it should be a Fortitude save not a Will save. What is going on?
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Showstopper Feb 17, 2020 @ 11:57am 
Pathfinder: Kingmaker uses 1st edtion rules not 2nd edition. In first edition violet rays sends you to another plane and indigo makes you insane on a failed will save. At least violet rays wouldn't be feasible in the game so they probably just made it a death effect.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/prismatic-spray/
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Finrod Feb 17, 2020 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by thelebk:

This is not possible according to the Pathfinder Core Rule Book (2nd edition) description of the prismatic spray spell. See page 360.

How close is really 2nd edition to 1st, for you not to notice that the videogame is based on the 1st edition?
I know for example that the spells per day are different, less in 2e
(I heard that in 2e spellcasters received a nerf)
Or you only know 2e?
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thelebk Feb 17, 2020 @ 1:55pm 
I sold my 1st ed book before I moved. Its not a spell I used a lot, so I would not have memorized the difference on the violet ray. It is still possible to be transported to anther plane in 2nd ed, but only only a natural 1 on the will save.
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